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Special Upgrade analysis: (Note we are using the decimal representation for R-type bonus and for critical bonus; for simplicity examples and inequalities assume 30% critical rate with rank 1 critical and no other bonuses unless otherwise specified)

An S-type upgrade can give you a higher maximum critical damage than an R-type of the same level until:

• Max Damage > (S-type Bonus/R-type bonus) * (1 + Critical Bonus)
• Example, for a +3R Claymore to have a higher maximum critical damage than a +3S Claymore at rank 5 Critical Hit, the max damage with the sword must be greater than (21/0.26)*(1 + 1.10)=169.6.

An S-type upgrade will give you higher maximum damage across 10 hits (assuming 30% critical rate) than an R-type of the same level until:

• Max Damage > ((S-type Bonus)(7 + 3(1 + Critical Bonus)))/(3(R-Type Bonus))
• Example, for a +3R Claymore to have a higher maximum damage across 10 hits than a +3S Claymore at rank 5 Critical Hit, the max damage with the sword must be greater than ((21)(7 + 3(1 + 1.10)))/(3(0.26))=277.3.

Similarly, an S-type upgrade on a staff (wands are element specific which exacerbates the situation) will have higher maximum damage across 10 hits than an R-type upgrade of the same level until:

• Magic Attack > (7 + 3(1 + Critical Bonus)) * (S-type Bonus)/(3*(R-type Bonus)) - (Base Spell Damage)/(Spell Constant)
• Generally speaking, a user should have over 610 magic attack before upgrading a staff for a step 6 R-Type Bonus to do more damage for spells up to Lightning Rod. Lower magic attack is required for spells with higher base damage to spell constant ratios.

To modify the equations for a higher or lower critical rate, using decimal representations, replace each 3 with (10 * (critical rate)) and replace the 7 with (10 - (10 * (critical rate)))

When should I stop using the BDK bow?

You should switch from the BDK bow to your +5R special upgraded bow if your damage with the R5 bow is: (including possibilities with ~30 damage from bow enchants)

R5 bow max	Damage with bow
50	870
60	774
70	677
80	580
90	484
100	387
Bhafel Set
60	316
68	264
90	126
98	76

Fire Cylinders (Flame Burst)

An S-type upgrade on a cylinder will do more Flame Burst damage across 10 hits (assuming 30% critical) until the combined base damage B = (Skill Damage + Fire Alchemic Damage Modifiers + 0.08*HP) satisfies:

• B > ((S-type Bonus)(7 + 3 (1 + Critical Rank Bonus)))/(3(R-Type Bonus))

This is in fact the same bottom line as regular melee weapons, since the number of charges linearly increases the damage for Flame Burst (according to the current damage formula). The S-type Upgrade applies a bonus to the B value, while R-type does exactly what it normally does. Thus, depending on what enchants you have available, Rank 1 Flame Burst and Rank 1 Critical Hit would call for about 1200-1300 total HP for red upgrades (Step 5) to be preferable. This is because the value for B at step 5 is 145. 42 of that is base Flame Burst damage, so the other 103 must come from HP or Fire Alchemy Damage Modifiers.

• Two Heated Accessories brings this number down to 1100-1200. Likewise, having Master of Alchemy (or of Golden Time) + Winter Angel (or Halloween Trickster) without any other enchants brings the HP need down to: (145 - 42 - 10 - 12)/(0.08)=1012. There is enough Fire Alchemic Damage through enchants and titles (technically) available to eliminate the HP restriction entirely, so anyone serious about improving damage with fire alchemy should always go for red.

Water Cylinders (Water Cannon)

This should be the same result as Fire Cylinders, damage formula might be wonky, but enchants and MP will force red upgrades to be preferable outside of impenetrable protection

Expectation of stones: Given the success rates of the stones, and the fact that a failure decreases the current level by one (except +5 to +6 which destroys the item), we can calculate the expected number of stones to reach each new level. For example, when trying for 2 to 3, we will either decrease to 1 or increase to 3. Hence we require the number of stones to get to +2, plus the expected number of stones to get to +2 from +1 times the number of expected failures, plus one stone for a success.

Level	Rate	Expected number of attempts	Total Stones
0 to 1	100%	1	1
1 to 2	50%	2	1 + 1 + 1
2 to 3	50%	2	3 + 3 + 1
3 to 4	45%	20/9	7 + (11/9)(7) + 1 = 16 + 5/9
4 to 5	45%	20/9	(16+5/9) + (11/9)(16+5/9) + 1 = 34 + 1/9
5 to 6	45%	20/9	(34+1/9) + (11/9)(34+1/9) + 1 = 69 + 2/9

However, these are only good averages across a very large number of weapons (trillions of weapons). For perspective (per a recent discussion with some guy who likes python), about 50% weapons will use less than 21 stones and about 80% of weapons will use less than 45 stones.

Thus, you can consider yourself "unlucky" if you require more than 40 stones to get to +5 and you can consider yourself "lucky" if you require less than 20 stones to get to +5.