User:Rydian/Speed

Intro

This page has some tests and info about speed boosts in Mabinogi.

If you're concerned with real-time DPS testing, see User:Rydian/DPS instead for info and comparisons.

On this page, "melee" is anything you physically whack the enemy with up close, including using wands/cylinders as beat sticks.

Attack Delay Reduction

• Certain things like set effects, certain wings, buff potions, and Vivace can reduce your attack delay by a certain percentage.
  • This reduces the down time after a hit before you can attack again, meaning more rapid attacks.
• Equips and buffs all stack up to the cap (400ms normally, 300ms under Relentless Assault).
  • For example a Very Slow weapon under Final Hit with Grandmaster Wings would have a delay of (1000 * 0.8 * 0.7) = 560ms.
  • Delay is integer math, any remaining portions under 1ms are truncated/dropped.

Equips

Set Effect	Example Items	Reduction	Does Not Work On
Attack Speed Increase	Saint Guardian's Set Chinese Dragon Set Languhiris Chaser Set Various Enchant Points	20%	Fast / Very Fast Melee1 Chains (Near)2 Bows/Crossbows4 Alchemy/Magic
Increases Attack Delay3	Abyss Dragon Horns (M) Abyss Dragon Horns (F)	10%	Fixed-Delay Skills (Final Strike, etc.) Bows / Crossbows Alchemy / Magic
	Possessed Eiren Wings	10%
	Champion Wings	10%
	Master Wings	20%
	Grandmaster Wings	30%

^{1 Melee weapons are generally swords, axes, or blunts.}

^{2 Chain blades have different attack speeds depending on how close you are. The further/slower speed is buffed, the nearer/faster speed is not.}

^{3 Nexon derp, actually reduces delay.}

^{4 Aim speed for normal ranged attack & Support short are increased}

Buffs

Buff	Reduction	Does Not Work On	Notes
Attack Delay Reduction Potion (10 min)	15%	(Untested)	-
Fallen Fairy Summon	30%	Bows/Crossbows	-
Final Hit	20%	Anything non-melee	-
(Mini/Fine/Finest) Lavender Scented Candle	1% / 3% / 5%	Bows/Crossbows	-
Magic Speed Potion	10%	Anything non-magic	-
Might of Ladeca	1 Weapon Speed Tier i.e. Very Slow -> Slow	Anything that's not a Close Combat Weapon Very Fast weapons (as there's no faster tier)	-
Relentless Assault	5% to 20%	Bows/Crossbows	Reduces the speed cap to 300ms for all buffs while active.
Vivace	x%	Alchemy/Magic (Speeds up charge time instead) Bows/Crossbows (Used to increase aim speed, currently bugged)	-
Way of the Gun	50%	Anything non-gun	-
Wind Guard	1 Weapon Speed Tier i.e. Very Slow -> Slow	Anything that's not a Close Combat Weapon Very Fast weapons (as there's no faster tier)	-

Tests - Single Buff

• Attack speed appears to cap at 400ms at the fastest unless Relentless Assault is active (300ms then).
• Dual-wield (swords) or dual-attack (guns) are tested as an attack cycle, not individual hits.
  • Dual-gun attacks are considered one attack but hit twice on purpose (1=2).
  • The game considers a set of dual-wield hits as one "attack cycle" (1+1=2) because dual-wielding was a hack.

Intended Values

• Found via packet-logging (shhh don't tell).
  • Represent what the server decides directly.

Tested Values

• Tested by recording the game at a high framerate and measuring the time an attack cycle took, but it's a rough estimation.
  • Testing was mainly done to confirm speed caps and show that the number given by the game is not what you should expect as a player unless you have like 0 ping.
• Testing annoying/hard and results in laggier attacks.
  • Inconsistent latency requires repeated testing and averaging and/or dropping outliers.
    • Mabi demands all data to be processed in the order it was sent/received and takes multiple steps to do combat tasks.
      • The effects of latency are multiplied because tasks are broken up into multiple pieces, each of which has separate latency.
    • FPS issues can skew test results too, especially where combat is concerned.
      • Mabi only reads input on rendered frames, so lower FPS = longer delays before you can attack again.

Single Melee

• Scythes, Lances, knuckles, and anything you physically hit with has a delay that depends on the weapon's speed.
  • The extra hit from Lance mastery affects knockdown gauge, not attack speed, so it doesn't matter for this.

Item	Intended Delay (ms)	-30% Intended Delay (ms)	Tested Delay (ms)	-30% Tested Delay (ms)
Very Slow 2H (Normals)	1000	700	-	-
Very Slow 2H (Final Hit)	800	560	918	603
Slow 1H (Normals)	800	560	-	-
Slow 1H (Final Hit)	640	448	757	543
Normal 2H (Normals)	600	420	-	-
Normal 2H (Final Hit)	480	400	544	470
Fast 1H (Normals)	520	400	-	-
Fast 1H (Final Hit)	416	400	-	-
Very Fast 1H (Normals)	450	400	-	-
Very Fast 1H (Final Hit)	400	400	-	-

Dual Melee

• Each dual-wield hit is the same delay as a normal hit (calculated normally), then multiplied by two.
  • Single hits still won't go below 400ms normally, which is why the lower bound for dual-wielding is 800ms in these tests.

Item	Intended Delay (ms)	-30% Intended Delay (ms)	Tested Delay (ms)	-30% Tested Delay (ms)
Slow 2H (Dual Wield Normals)	1600	1120	-	-
Slow 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit)	1280	896	-	-
Normal 2H (Dual Wield Normals)	1200	840	-	-
Normal 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit)	960	800	-	-
Fast 2H (Dual Wield Normals)	1040	800	-	-
Fast 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit)	832	800	-	-
Very Fast 2H (Dual Wield Normals)	900	800	-	-
Very Fast 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit)	800	800	-	-

Archery

• Bow speed affects recovery/reload time, but attack delay reduction bonuses don't seem to affect bow recovery time.

Item	Intended Delay (ms)	-30% Intended Delay (ms)	Tested Delay (ms)	-30% Tested Delay (ms)
Slow Bow (Normals)	800	800	-	-
Slow Bow (Magnum Shot)	800	800	-	-
Slow Bow (Arrow Revolver)	800	800	-	-
Normal Crossbow (Normals)	600	600	-	-
Fast Bow (Normals)	520	520	-	-

Guns

• Each instance here is for the pair of shots.

Item	Intended Delay (ms)	-30% Intended Delay (ms)	Tested Delay (ms)	-30% Tested Delay (ms)
Slow Guns (Normals)	1000	700	-	-
Slow Guns (Way of the Gun)	500	400	-	-
Very Fast Guns (Normals)	530	400	-	-
Very Fast Guns (Way of the Gun)	400	400	702	700

Shuriken

Item	Intended Delay (ms)	-30% Intended Delay (ms)	Tested Delay (ms)	-30% Tested Delay (ms)
Fast Shuriken (Normals)	700	490	-	-
Very Fast Shuriken (Normals)	530	400	833	687

Chain Blades

• Chain Blade attack speed depends on how close you are to the target.
  • The faster speed is if you're within less than half the max range.
  • The slower speed is used if you're over half the max range to the target.

Item	Intended Delay (ms)	-30% Intended Delay (ms)	Tested Delay (ms)	-30% Tested Delay (ms)
Fast Chain Blade (closer)	470	400	-	-
Fast Chain Blade (further)	720	504	-	-

Magic / Alchemy

• Attack delay reduction buffs have no effect on charging speed or delay when firing.
  • Recovery after firing skills seems locked at 500ms.

Tests - Stacking Buffs

• So now that we've established what buffs there are and how they work, let's see what happens when we stack them.
  • The test item will be a Fanatic Greatsword since it's normal speed and can make use of the Final Hit buff.

Buff	Theoretical Delay (ms)	Actual Delay (ms)
None	600?	600
Abyss Horns (-10%)	540?	540
Speed Set (-20%)	432?	432
Vivace (-16.5%)	360?	400
Final Hit (-20%)	288?	400
Finest Lavender Scented Candle (-5%)	273?	400
Relentless Assault (-7%)	253?	300

Movement Speed

Racial

Based on comparison with various skill radii, each race has the following in-game base movement speed.

(Note that these measurements are rough and could use re-testing with more granular measurement later)

Race	Units/Sec	Speed %
Human	~380	100%
Elf	~500	131.58%
Giant	~450	118.42%

Equipment / Commerce

I measured the walk cycle of the elephant commerce mount at a high FPS (~120).

• Nothing: (8.275-9.000) 0.725 seconds.
• Fleet Feet: (10.383-11.050) 0.667 seconds.
• Alpaca Robe: (8.617-9.217) 0.600 seconds.
• Commerce Level 17: (8.008-8.483) 0.475 seconds.

Combining them...

• 17+Fleet: (5.758-6.192) 0.434 seconds.
• 17+Robe: (4.400-4.875) 0.475 seconds.
• 17+Fleet+Robe: (15.125-15.558) 0.433 seconds.

So Fleet Feet are about 10% here, the robe is about 19-20%, commerce level 17 is about 52-53%, and the alpaca robe does not actually stack with the reforge.

I didn't bother with March Song or Shylock or other buff combinations because they don't work on the commerce mount anyways.