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I assure you, I do not revert images as an 'attack', or I'd be replacing images all over the wiki over grounds of 'higher resolution'

Conversely, I assure you: the constant reversion of my replacements of images originally uploaded my you is an attack on me, rather than you. After all, if it were not in specific defense of you, and instead on reasons that my 'white' was not actually white, then why haven't my China 7th Anniversary Headdress (F) been reverted? It was uploaded at the same time as the dress. If I had replaced your Nighttime images of the headdress for consistency, as I now realize I should have done, and will be doing soon, I believe my images would have been reverted by BartRoberts posthaste.

And on the point of 'it's just a stripe', in that case, why not replace the Nakuru Dragon robe images with a black one. After all, 'it's just a pattern'. Or the rule of no jpg images? 'It's just a pixel distortion'.

My point is that if we are to be professional about one aspect, we should be professional about all aspects, and your belief that any improvements over your work are for the purpose of 'being a jerk' rather than pure standards is quite detrimental to this wiki.

Oneris (talk)16:36, 21 July 2013

Don't bring me into this again. You've already requested a "warning" for me over nothing. I could go ahead and find something wrong with all of your images and replace them, if I really wanted to be like that. Shape up, you say her attitude ain't fit and is detrimental to the wiki as it is. If that's the case then neither is yours.

Keep in mind, this is two things she's done in a row, while it may not have been a specific attack against her from your point of view. It does seem rather convenient that both were for the exact same reason. Also, you even mentioned the dress in your revisions. Not very good conduct.

BartRoberts (talk)16:42, 21 July 2013
 

In most of these cases, you were the one inciting such conflict by repeated reverting. At least Midnightlust was kind enough to open a discussion thread, to talk the issue out.

I replaced two of her images in a row, because there was the same issue with them, in a row. And I plan to replace a third, or a fourth, of anyone's images that show the same problem.

And how was mentioning the dress 'not very good conduct'? I was proving my point by precedent, and surely the same policy that ruled on my prior image should apply for this and all future and past images as well.

Oneris (talk)16:46, 21 July 2013

Go ahead and start with your own images. You have overlapping hair in a lot of them, as well as white in images.

I'm not "talking" about this anymore, it's pointless, as it was from the start.

BartRoberts (talk)16:51, 21 July 2013
 

White? Where? As I recall, my only instance of white was very quickly replaced, with minimal amounts of protest.

And Yes I have seen hair covering in many of my images, and no I have not ever contested the removal of such a flagrant violation. You must also have noticed that I strive to avoid such violations in my most recent contributions. Is it not a improvement? Hmm? If you want, I'll generously replace and improve any of my older violations as well. In fact, I'll start right now.

Oneris (talk)16:58, 21 July 2013
 

Well the headdress is lacking consistency I can tell you that much.

まそっぷ ! (talk)16:55, 21 July 2013
 

I'll fix it now. As well as everything else. I was trying to be 'generous' by leaving some of her images intact.

Edit: or I would, if I had not missed the window for optimal darkness.. >.>

Oneris (talk)17:01, 21 July 2013
 

Well you know, Ciar is pretty dark...at least inside the dungeon. Optimal darkness would be the hours of 11pm~2am (23:00~2:00)

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:13, 21 July 2013
 

I'm thinking of maybe entrance to Shyllien or something... Or waiting until nighttime again while I compile a list of personal failings and their planned improvements. Ah, why do the sand statues need to take up a friggen 6 squares?!

Edit: nope, not dark enough. I'll be back in 20 minutes...

Oneris (talk)17:15, 21 July 2013
 

Hillwen Mines is pretty dark too now that I think about it...and I have no idea. I decided to wait til I have around 25 sands, pick up a statue, and throw sand into.

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:16, 21 July 2013
 

That tactic makes so much sense I'm gonna outright steal it <3 Thanks!

Oneris (talk)17:18, 21 July 2013
 

This took me a while when I afked all 24 hours yesterday and figured out I had plenty of sand and no statue. Since then I pretty much done just that.

Bart I think I can see this is clearly an attack on Oneris, considering your recent replacement

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:27, 21 July 2013

It's not an attack? As he said it, the images were already planned to be fixed. As long as it follows conduct there's no problem, right?

At any rate, it's all just nitpicking. I'm not going to bother with images anymore. o_o

BartRoberts (talk)17:45, 21 July 2013
 

Whatever the case may be, it was fine before.

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:48, 21 July 2013

...Hence the whole point of this thread.

BartRoberts (talk)17:51, 21 July 2013
 

Hence the difference between your replacement and mine. On yours, there was no plausible reason for a replacement; on mine, there was.

Oneris (talk)18:04, 21 July 2013

Wrong. The white draws the attention away from the weapon, being the brightest color in the image, making it hard to focus on the atlatl itself. You're welcome to argue that "Oh, it's not part of the weapon itself, however, it still applies that it distracts from the detail of the weapon. This is no different than the white cancelling out the two shades, it's a distraction/prevention from the detail of the weapon. This is the whole point for not having white in images.

Edit: Also, pretty sure the wiki policy is just no white.

BartRoberts (talk)18:06, 21 July 2013
 

Then going by your logic, we must scour the wiki of every image where the brightest color is not on the object in focus. Aka photoshopping every background black among others, and banning people with light colored skin from modeling darker objects.

Mabinogi World Wiki:Policy#Image Policy: Also be aware that if you use colors that are light or dark enough to obscure details they may be replaced.

User:LexisMikaya/Optimizing Pictures to Wiki Standards:Avoid using bright colors that may transition into white under certain lighting conditions.

Oneris (talk)18:19, 21 July 2013
 

Holy. Shit. All of you. Just. Stop.

One last time: It's a fucking picture for a fucking wiki. Get over it.

 

It's clear people get pretty upset over nitpicking of the atlat, but it's okay to revert mine for reasons that are equally silly.

Midnightlust (talk)18:22, 21 July 2013