Talk:Generation 15: Merchant of Venice

Not sure if G15 was modified but in the RP of this quest, there were only 8 rooms and 1 floor. Someone please confirm.

We should have gotten the revamp so that Alby isn't as tedious as once was.

Edit: Longa? It should have been reduced for revamp.

IIRC, it was a Small Skeleton, a few Skeleton Wolves, Metals, and Strong Bombers, on Hard...

Is there a "surefire" way to get Lone wolf...I just got Sharer of Joy once more on my main this time. (so happy I got G15 done but...)'

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Someone spoil what happened during it.

I heard something about the Imp seeing Cichol, and this happened during G11 where Jenna had killed him?

To my understanding, yes. This event takes place at that very time.

I've heard this quest is glitched. How so?

I also heard something about the cutscene not processing right?

Yes it is. the moment you get to the scene with jenna and cichol, for whatever reason, it locks up right there. Just hit esc and skip it.

Eh? It's still happening??

Maybe it's Nexon's failed attempt to prevent spoiling? :P

maybe...though it wouldn't make any sense considering the character i did it on had already completed g9~12 x.x

Update: 11/21/11 The cutscene is still broken.

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Someone go look in cutscene.xml for me and see if the characters say anything, please.

I'm sure it's a recap, but can't say for certain.

By the way, is Day of Liberation really a part of G15?

If it has the G15 mark, then it is. If not, then it isn't.

I doubt it. I am not sure though; I'll check on an alt later.

I don't really understand some parts of it. What did W.S. mean "wait for Bella"? Why does W.S. need a body to rebirth? Heck, why can't he ask Dougal for his? Why don't you fight Grim and Bran simultaneously?!

Well, wait for Bella is basically foreshadowing G16, I assume. Shaky needs Shylock to leave Erinn (by going into the Book of Golvan) so he can rebirth into Shylock's exact appearance to fool Morry for good. (Although, DevCAT seems to have forgotten that they said that Morry turned to stone. Evidently broken by her being in Alby much less Erinn.) Assuming this isn't a joke, Dougal doesn't know Shaky and vice verca. Dougal just knows of Shaky. As for your last question, I have no idea, but that would've been a good idea.

I don't see why he chose Shylock though. He's a Milletian, so he can change his appearance at will.

Also, Dougal said he didn't need his body, and I think its possible Shaky foresaw him at one point since he DID meet almost every main character in the Storyline and foresaw Nao and the Milletians.

Morrighan would notice if there were two Shylocks.

rebirth would have to go through soul stream which is seen by Morrighan so he just took shylock's

He DID try rebirthing after Shylock went into Golvan's story though.

Couldn't he have chosen someone else to rebirth into? Or better yet, rebirth using the "random" button.

But then Morrighan would see "Oh, new Milletian! Another one for me to kill! Let me remember him/her."

Would she know that's Shakespeare though? :P

Capturing Shaky is her priority. The blood of the Milletians is a secondary task.

Still, though, she wants Milletians out. If she can't find Shakespeare, she'd settle for getting all the Milletians. And since Shylock isn't Milletian, he would be safe. At least, until she decides to Massacre the Tuatha de Danann too.

Doppelganger Shakespeare? :D

"[May be bugged, or there are requirements. Needs to be looked into. Some people cannot accompany a person into this mission.]"

Has anyone even taken account of people's levels? Don't forget that it's a Shadow Mission.

I tried to bring a friend that is higher than my noob's total and they did not get on. The quest clearly says 1-2 people x.x...I think it's bugged.

Not even using a pet helps them get in.

Using pets doesn't smuggle people into dungeons or normal missions, so of coarse that won't help here.

It was still worth a shot :c you never know :x

Yeah, I am struggling heavily with this SM and I can't bring a friend along either. I think this is a typo. Has anybody actually brought a friend along?

Have you tried summoning power-hungry lions?

I'm sure it isn't coded Red for negative and blue for positive due to spoilers...but any idea on what's what? some choices sounds like negative negative to me @@...

The first option is always positive (despite sounding aggressive).

I'd figured as much after a while. But I guess it wouldn't hurt to code it? I'm probably just picky since well...I mean seriously how does "Greet Formally or Simply Nod" can be positive-negative? both sound positive to me. I mean, one sounds nicer than the other but it sounds like a positive-positive for younger people.

Is it really always the first option? I mean...

Whiskey Is Thicker Than Water:
Lucas Prompt: Admiral Owen... or Barry...
The first choice is a lie.

A Will and Willpower:
Portia Prompt: Propose to her or Tell her she is pretty
Wouldn't proposing to someone you've never met might just offend them?

Also when speaking to Shylock for the last time your asked if you would kill if you were in his case.... The first option was yes... But either way, I'm pretty sure the game reads the first answer/second answer as they are despite the emotional affect of the option. As I said, the first option is always the positive one despite sounding negative.

A friend of mine got the Lone wolf title and some of probably half of choices were the first ones...I think there's more to it than, first = positive.

The three boxes...wouldn't you have to lie to lucas? the answer end up negative-negative-positive. :c

I think its positive-negative-negative since he's supposed to pick Gold.
For Keith, it's negative-positive-negative.
Bassanio: negative-negative-positive.

Kinda like in the original story; the first person picked Gold, the second picked Silver, and Bassanio picked Lead.

o-o you just spoiled it for me :c j/k but yeah...there's gonna be a seriously color angry page if we color code it...

I told both Keith and Lucas Gold but they went ahead and picked whatever they pleased.

They're idiots. They do whatever the hell they want. :P

Did g15 on several characters, and found like a ton of stuff @@...I put the link to it on the top of G15 page. It may help people getting the sharer of joy/lone wolf more easily without having to guess every so often.

Do you have to kill all the Belvast Guardsmen in your way, or can you just find an alternate path and run through?

The captain have blue fan-shaped sight like Romeo RP in G14.

You have to dodge captain and kill the average guardmen

... God I'm pissed.

There's too many of them. Guards can easily make short work of me or Portia, and I'm having trouble dispatching them. Portia even accidentally aggroed a Commander and got herself killed...

Why couldn't they make this easier while readjusting G13 and G14 in this update...

You can use Mercenaries, maybe the Halloween bombs to clear a group out ;D or lions... :D

... I can?

Why did I forget them?! D:

Seeing as it is a Shadow Mission and outdoors, Adniel is likely to work too.

Otherwise,using full-charged thunder, fireball or crash shot is also a good tactic since the guards seem to spawn close to one another.

doesn't captain have like 100% protection?

I don't have Thunder, nor Fireball, nor Crash Shot.

And yes, the Commanders do. They also make short work of my mercs.

I contest the accuracy of that section. When I finished the RP-ish dungeon I only got a Red Upgrade Stone, but not a Blue one. Also, I don't think it can be considered Alby Beginner if there's Giant Bats, Blue Wolves and Burgundy Spiders in them.

And also, on the Whiskey is Thicker than Water quest, I think it was Owen who gave the rewards, not Shayla. I'm less sure about this one though. It might be that the choices affected that particular scene.

You talk to Owen, not Shayla.

Yes, but Owen introduces you to Shayla who gives you the stuff during the conversation, like how you talk to Rian and Esras intervenes in Generation 2.

I do not remember that...the only time Shayla was mentioned in the dialogue was the random comment about bumping into her.

At least, that's what I remember.

Something like that. But, she does intervene within the conversation.

Nope, just checked my screenshots. Owen's the one who gives the player the rewards for reaching commerce level 2, presumably the ducats and the potions. Shayla is only mentioned after Owen's prompt of "Greet Formally" and "Simply Nod", where her script is "(Shayla bumps your shoulder as she passes by.) Oh excuse me, I'm so sorry".

Now that I look at it though, the prompt seems displaced...but anyways, there's no mention of Shayla giving anything, only the mention of Owen giving the player something.

I think it said Shayla gave you the potions in compensation for the accident. My memory's foggy, so...

There wasn't a mention in the screenshots about an accident either. I could have missed clicking the PrtSc key but I doubt it. I think it's probably dialogue change because of the choices that pops up. Can we just change that to "You will receive a Belvast Whiskey, 1000 Ducats, and 3 HP & MP 100 Potions" instead of "Shayla will then give you a Belvast Whiskey, 1000 Ducats, and 3 HP & MP 100 Potions"?

And one more thing, when you removed the "Skeleton" part in the "Skeleton|Mini Skeleton" coding, you directed it to the Mini Skeleton pet.

Fine, fine....

And I was totally unaware of the Mini Skeleton Pet. D:

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