STOP

The reason your edits are criticized is because the majority:

1) Don't have to do with mabinogi (trivia sections).

2) Get reverted for being incorrect.

3) Are extremely wordy and make pages confusing.

4) Are not needed and seem to be made just to spin the lines around

5) Have 5th grade level grammar.

6) Contain speculation and not fact.

7) Contain an invalid explanation for an occurrence.

We've had to patrol your edits because they are atrocious and you make so many of them that it becomes a nuisance. While its true we get criticized for cracking down on a lot of people, its because we have standards for this wiki and people who refuse to meet those standards quickly have their edits removed.

I understand the criticism, but, I don't think its that hard to fix them.

But truthfully, undoing it entirely is not the right way to go. Sure, some of the information is hard to understand, but, part of it is relevant.

Also, you could just tell me what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it.

we should not need to know anything about Vindictus to understand anything on this wiki. Anyways, we already tried telling you a long time what not to do, and you didn't get it (perhaps you just don't understand). I'm irritated because this is getting way to similar to the Shadowboy132/DarkBlade132 incident.

I don't think anyone one said "no Vindictus Trivia" either directed to me or in the policy, until now. At least I'm trying to do something, rather than sitting around and doing nothing. You should be glad that someone is trying to positive work around rather than performing negative things.

Is it really positive if your trivias have been repeatedly undone, yet you insist on continuing with them? :\

Don't bring that back up please.

But, what if (I said "if") the information was truly relevant.
Earlier, Tellos undid my edits on the Shadow Spirit page, claiming that calling the shadows "spirits" (which is what they were stated in-game) was "pointless". Someone else undid it because the information was accurate.

Btw, is there anything wrong with adding the links and capitalizing the first letter of a main word, like Protection?

I'm the other user you're talking about there.

You did go through the article and change 'shadow/s' to 'spirit/s' where applicable, that was good. However, with that same edit you snuck in some other changes that weren't really necessary, most prominently *Shadow Spirit is [[Cichol]]'s skill, and as such can be used regardless of which [[Morrighan|God]][[Neamhain|dess]] the player chooses. That line in particular I had to revert when I was undoing Tellos' undo.. @_@

This isn't the TVTropes Wiki; splitting one word into multiple links confuses the reader and breaks the flow of the page. In addition, the Shadow Spirit page doesn't even have a spoiler tag; naming the goddesses whose powers you can use on the page is potentially a bad idea.

The only other thing to say is, multiple consecutive edits that achieve different purposes are better than a single edit that changes a ton of stuff. I do this too, and I'm working on it, but if you're going to do something like fix the use of the word "shadow", do that, but make unrelated changes in separate edits, to keep the edit summaries relevant and make it easier for everybody who does quality control.

Thanks.

No one, not even the policy (at least not from what I saw), said I could split a word into two links. And I don't see how naming Morrighan and Neamhain on that page is a "spoiler".

Anyway this argument is getting a little too long...

I'm not an authority figure telling you you're breaking the rules. I'm a user telling another user that while it's not explicitly said you can't do that, it's (IMO) bad practice and a horrible stylistic decision.

Re: spoilers, yeah I guess it's not particularly cared about at least in that section, I was going to say someone who hasn't beaten G10 wouldn't know things, but if they're in that part of the wiki they're there to learn them I guess. Maybe most of the demi pages need spoiler warnings at the top...

I'm specifically talking about the trivias. No attention to whatever you guys may be arguing about.

mabinogi and vindictus is different game, different world.

They are both based on Irish Mythology but they are not based on each other.

Shall we close this discussion now?

I agree that we should stop. Gosh this must be one of the longest arguments in history.

But I agree with Pyro though, should we make a page involving relations between Mabinogi: Fantasy Life and Vindictus? I mean, a similar page exists between the Irish Mythology...

it's like putting detail about bagel in the triva for croissant page because they are both made of flours.

...? I'm sorry, but I don't understand.

They are both based on Irish Mythology but they are not based on each other.

Bagel and Croissant are both made with flours but putting triva about bagel in croissant page doesn't make sense.

maybe my comparison is poor.

Well... They do have a lot of stuff related, right?

Let me put it another way: would you write a comparative thesis on the similarities between dishwashers and microwaves just because they're both cuboid, have a side that opens on a hinge, and plug into your wall outlet?

A human and a mushroom are both comprised of cells, so why aren't humans defined in mushroom's terms?

minor contributions like spelling and linking do not outweigh your content edits.

just make sure if the piece of information is really needed. some of your edit is rather restating and/or not that much important. Also, your opinion shouldn't be on the page, even on triva, unless it is obvious. For example, in Cichol's page, after his death, someone wrote:

"He will mostly likey to reborn, since what is the story without main antagonist?" and windmill introduction where someone said windmill is the best skill(i personally think its worst skill. make the game boring)

we dont need info like that.

another thing is that your sentence is usually subjective and comparative.

still, most of your contribution is greatly appreciated and useful.