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Unreleased Content
I do like the idea having a section of "Unreleased Content" so people can compare/hope/expect. It can provide people a peek of what to look forward to even if it's not the true role of a wiki. On that note, we should never call something skipped content unless someone official says we're definitely never getting it, and anything "unreleased" should have a legitimate source (info of Mabinogi[game] as opposed to Mabinogi[local version]). Of course then, we'd have to watch for pages like "Unreleased Content, Pokemon Party Paradise!"
Except "Unreleased Content" in your description already exists. We already have Treasure Hunter and Smart Content in this page.
Exactly, my understanding was that this was a discussion on whether to keep and maintain what what would be called "Unreleased Content", as per the last few sentences of the first post.
What exists is technically "Future content" which someone has already confirmed that we will receive. "Future Content" is necessarily "Unreleased Content" but not vice versa. However, due to the unknowable nature of the content, we should avoid labeling it as "skipped"
"Skipped Content" is different. It's content that was not released in a patch that KR had, which is something the majority of us wants removed because it creates nothing but false hope and is the cause of a vandalism that happened not too long ago.
^ I'm going to have to agree. I would just do away with it if it's going to cause issues, just as the recent vandalism did. Besides, weekly rebirth is broken imo.
I've wanted skipped content section removed years ago. Where were you all when that thread was happening lol.
I wasn't as active years ago?
And I've only recently saw a problem with the "Skipped Content". Mainly because of people using the wiki as a reference to why we didn't get X content.
My thought is, why not just remove all future content and leave it hidden (or if you can't hide whole pages, pre-write it and save it to your guys own computers or something).
No matter what you guys do, having info from overseas that has the possibility of changing when/if it arrives to NA always causes headaches.
For example, the Ninja Skills from Japan, or the SMART Content from KR. Write the pages and hide them. No need to even bother revealing those pages to the public until it's arrived in NA.
And just because we're getting an update, doesn't mean we're getting everything with it. What if we don't get a certain item from the Treasure Dungeons (Example: Ancient Shyllien, which are used to make even more powerful bullets than the bullets we have now in-game could possibly be left out because maybe Nexon feels that Guns are already powerful enough), people will complain that it's Nexon's fault because the Wiki listed the stuff.
People are always bickering about what the wiki says and treat it as if it's written in stone and that Nexon should adapt to that, so I say just hide it all and give it a test run for one update.
The thing I'm thinking about is that, just because it isn't listed here on the wiki, doesn't mean the info isn't somewhere else like mabination or even from others in game. People will get the info someway or another. I'm just not much a fan of missing information is the thing.
But removing it would go against this very thread!
On topic, that would be the best solution, to just remove it while it's still unclear and re-add when it's confirmed. This is a wiki for mabi NA, not a wiki for things that may or may not happen. It'd be far more organized if it only had things the we currently have and things that we are guaranteed to get.
So do you think it should be in the coding of hte page but in invisible <!-- --> tags or do you want them completely off of the wiki, even if its not viewable unless you click edit page? And if the latter, then would you agree that we would be able to put it on User Page subpages instead?
I agree with Meru, if it's not from the wiki, they will get the information somewhere. I don't think refusing to mention it on the wiki would necessarily decrease the amount of players disgruntled about not receiving an update.
Seriously? lol Well, anyway, they don't really have to link to things to talk about them on the forums or in game. We all just seem to be at a disagreement here.
I personally don't think we should determine what to do on wiki decisions based on what squabbling goes on in an unrelated forum. Make things clearer, more precise, and less misleading? Sure. Censoring information based on the stupidity of someone completely unrelated to us? Insane.