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Defense and Counterattack may not be used with a lance equipped.

Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Lances List

No. Charge can be used last I played on a giant, so assumed the same for a charge w/o shield reforged human.

Surrept (talk)22:56, 26 July 2015

That's some weird shit.

Charge and Lance Charge share the same cooldown. A giant can use either whenever they want and it does not switch your weapon. However, I'm pretty sure a human cannot use charge with just a lance equipped. I believe it'll say you need shield or switch to your other gear if you have one equipped already.

I'd have to test it though because I don't play little humans much :)

DANTE20XX (talk)01:28, 27 July 2015

Not sure why they didn't just consolidate the two skills along with Counterattack + Lance Counter and save some hotkey spots. It's totes possible.

That seems pointless and unnecessary to me. Not to mention the skills are entirely different.

DANTE20XX (talk)15:33, 27 July 2015

I think IDSd's idea makes sense since you're not going to use one when you have the other. It would also make it possible, for example, to switch between traditional melee + shield, and lances without having to switch hotkey sets.

Not that it matters though, we don't control how the game works, lol.

Blargel (talk)16:19, 27 July 2015

Then we wouldn't have ANY lance specific skills then.

DANTE20XX (talk)16:44, 27 July 2015

Yeah, but it barely even passes as a skillset in the first place.

And that extra ap. :(

True, lance doesn't have much, but I don't want it to have even less!

AP isn't so bad, especially with the free talent ap now :)

DANTE20XX (talk)20:33, 27 July 2015

As much as I don't like redundancy and copypaste skills, more stats is better than none.

Infodude575 (talk)20:49, 27 July 2015

We should tell devCat to implement a skill that does literally nothing but every rank gives you a ton of stats.

Infodude575 (talk)00:21, 28 July 2015

You have an odd definition of "a ton of stats".

 
 
 

Oh well. I'm an elf, so I really don't care about lances. lol.

This explains everything!

DANTE20XX (talk)02:52, 28 July 2015