Talk:Leather Long Bow

Are purple bows from an event? User:Heme

Yes. It's a reward from this event, which ended a few days ago. --Aramet 21:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

what's the maximum range the LLB can fire?--Price 06:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

New Upgrade Sequence

I want to add a new upgrade sequence in which the leather long bow sacrifices -2 MAX attack for +4% critical chance. Am I allowed to post it? --Miyuna

I'm assuming the upgrade sequence you're talking about is:

Type	Upgrade 1 Proficiency / Cost	Upgrade 2 Proficiency / Cost	Upgrade 3 Proficiency / Cost	Upgrade 4 Proficiency / Cost	Upgrade 5 Proficiency / Cost	Final Stats & Changes Total Proficiency / Cost
199	Aranwen's Leather Long Bow Enhancement 70 / 18,000G	Bowstring Tightening 20 / 2,500G	Bow String Strengthening 3 25 / 3,600G	Bow String Strengthening 4 37 / 6,600G	Bow String Strengthening 5 47 / 10,600G	Attack 5-39 Critical 24% Balance 47% Injury Rate 15~100% Range +100 199 / 41,300G

From my perspective, this sequence seems relatively plausible, that it doesn't sacrifice too much of one thing in order to gain minimal of another. Though -2 MAX is the difference between Fox and Wolf Hunter, so this sequence may not be as popular as its former. If I got the right sequence, just copy and paste it onto the page. --Zephyre 17:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks~ --Miyuna

Bow dyeing

Hello there :P I never tried it myself, but I noticed that there were certain notices on weapons that can't be dyed, and I noticed there's nothing about that on Leather Long Bows. So I was wondering if the leather part on them could actually be dyed or not O: Figured I'd ask before I spent any money on a dye~ thanks^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aku (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments with the button or by typing ~~~~!

Nope, it can't be dyed. If you want those pretty colors, you'd need to get lucky when shopping at an NPC that sells them. =P --Aramet 22:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I see ewe Then shouldn't someone put the details up on those too? :P

Done. --Aramet 23:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

To ensure that nobody gets confused, "dyeing" is, oddly enough, the correct spelling of the word; though Nexon is well-known for their frequency in misspellings and grammar errors, they tend to ace the more complex words thanks to online dictionaries. --Sharivin 17:16, 15 August 2009

Demi Rich/Lich epic fail owo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wuberfeca (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments with the button or by typing ~~~~!

Actual Range?

This page notes in the base stats table that the range is 1800. The Bows List notes in its table that the range of 2000. I don't know which is correct or accurate, so for somebody who does, please fix this. This goes double for the Long Bow weapon; one page says 1800, the other 2000. (Edit: This goes triple for Elven Long Bow, even though it is unreleased) -Rusty 02:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• some idiot changed it, ill change it back for ya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Purity464 (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments with the button or by typing ~~~~!

This seems to be a fairly common misunderstanding. I've seen (and been quoted) several sources stating that an LLB has 1800 base range and that an ELB has 2000, and that after range upgrades an LLB should only have 1900 while an ELB should have 2200.

Of course, this didn't seem very likely to me, as the base values of range here have been listed as 2000 for both bows for quite some time. So, I decided to to a few tests to put the issue to rest.

For these tests, I grabbed three bows, as followed:

1. Brand new Leather Long Bow from Meles, not even blessed. Of course, no upgrades.

2. Brand new Elven Long Bow from Meless, same as above.

3. Fully upgraded Leather Long Bow, with a +100 range upgrade.

For my first test, I tested the difference in distance that 100 range would make, by comparing the range distance between the unmodded LLB and the upgraded one. Monsters move around too much to be an accurate target, so I used the barrier spikes in Battle for Tailteann II. Mouse movement is currently less accurate than keyboard movement, as there seems to be a minimum movement distance, so I used keyboard movement. From a distance that was a longer range than the upgraded bow, I moved forward until it would aim, and noted the location. From there, I switched to the unmodded bow and moved forward until it could aim as well, and noted the distance between the two points. This is important, as it establishes that a distance of 200 is too large to be written off as inaccurate movement even with keyboard movement, and is important in the second test.

For the second test, I switched the upgraded LLB with the unmodded ELB. I walked back until I was outside of the ELB's range, and then once again slowly inched forward until the ELB would aim. I then switched to the unmodded LLB, and found that it, too, would aim, at the maximum distance that an ELB would aim at. As established above, the supposed differences of 200 distance would have easily made it impossible to aim the LLB at that distance.

Finally, I switched out the unmodded LLB with the modded one. Note that, according to the sources I mentioned before, an upgraded LLB should have 1900 range, while a non-upgraded Elven Long Bow should have 2000. Therefore, according to the sources mentioned, an un-upgraded ELB should still have 100 more range than an upgraded LLB. To show the most conclusive evidence, I compared the ranges of these two bows. Starting from a distance further away than either bow, I inched forward until the upgraded LLB would aim. When I switched to the plain ELB, without moving at all, it wouldn't aim. It was too far away.

Combining the results of these three tests, I can find three possible conclusions. Either both this wiki and the sources mentioned have the increased range values for upgrades flat out wrong, as the other sources list the post-upgrade range of an LLB as being 100 more than pre-upgrade, and the increased range of an upgraded LLB is more than 300, or the ELB and LLB actually have identical ranges. Of course, it's more reasonable to assume that one single value from one source is wrong than to assume that several values from two different sources is wrong, so it should be assume that the ELB and LLB have identical ranges.

An Elven Long Bow WILL get more range than a Leather Long Bow after upgrades. However, before the upgrades, there is no difference. Additionally, after upgrades, there is only a difference of 100 range between a Leather Long Bow and an Elven Long Bow. I will not attempt to discuss the relative merits of either bow in this explanation, however it really is important to establish the actual difference in range between the two bows. It's an important and objective fact that can heavily influence people's choices in weapons. I don't want to attempt to stop people from making decisions that may or may not be beneficial, but I'd at least like to make sure that they make them using accurate information. --ジェリ 04:28, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Ego Range

Does anyone know the range values for the ego'd LLB? It'd be nice to list all of them for all of the egoable bows, if possible. :3 JP wiki says the range is 2500, but I don't know which social levels that applies to. --Simpet 08:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Meles' Upgrade

When I tried to upgrade my Leather Long Bow from Meles she had a upgrade that was in "???". What is that upgrade? I noticed it was not on the upgrade list.-AokiRyuuTheDark

Are you sure it's not just an upgrade that you don't have enough previous upgrades for? (i.e. Gem Repair upgrade, possibly?) --Duet 00:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Rare Colors

While it's nice to have them on the page, I suppose, isn't it a bit weird to stick them in middle of the information on the spirit version of the bow? It's currently listing spirit stats, then rare colors, then it goes to spirit weapon repair. o.O --Simpet 05:09, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that was fixed fast. Thanks! --Simpet 05:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

lol np, it was a reasonable request and made sense. =) -- ladywinter ~{talk page}~ 08:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

That is not the right picture under fishing boat. That is the gacha leather long bow. The fishing boat leather long bow has a darker red.--Oumaru 01:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

do you have a picture of it? Post it re: Image Policy and I'll format the thing here. -- ladywinter ~{talk page}~ 02:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

No I don't, sorry, but i have seen the two before. I am trying to get one from fishing at the moment but it will take a long time.I'll take a screen shot if i get one.--Oumaru 20:11, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Spirit Weapon Stats

I've noticed there are a lot of blue numbers on this list, but no mention that I saw of what they mean. So, what are they? Are these values that people are unsure of or something else? If that is the case, I'd be more than happy to help fix the numbers as I level my ego (If I ever manage to). -- ChibiMoogle 07:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Looking over it, it seems that the blue represents when that stat is changed for the better (i.e. at level 10, Int goes from 50 to 51 and is thus blue). --Aramet (Talk) 07:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

So yeah cleaning Dye Details because I have nothing better to do at 3am and working at home is bad...what's up with the dye details here o-e? just leftover from page making or is there an actual dye that works?