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Counterattack with Bows, Crossbows, and Atlatls does not use Bare-handed damage?1010:27, 5 October 2013
Splash values721:31, 17 July 2012
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Counterattack with Bows, Crossbows, and Atlatls does not use Bare-handed damage?

That's news to me. Rather interesting that those all use actual damage while unloaded Dual Guns do not.

Kave Johnson (talk)06:45, 2 October 2013

I found it strange, too. But my Fomor Highlander Long Bow and Fomor Arbalest did a lot more than Bare-handed. I'm assuming Atlatl is the same, too.

Infodude575 (talk)09:46, 2 October 2013
 

Might want to run tests on that. You might have been getting lucky with randomized damage

Pick something easy to kill that aggro like Skeletons or Brown Dire Wolves.

Kave Johnson (talk)10:55, 2 October 2013
 

I'll taunt and get kicked around by foxes in a bit. ,I mean did you see my dual gun damage with counter?

まそっぷ ! (talk)11:24, 2 October 2013
 

Here's my short experiment on Atlatls:
Bare Hands damage:242~342
Counterattack test subject : Mutant Rabbit
Damage dealt:
701 (highest observed)
573(lowest observed)
699
629
633
671

Average: 651

Bone Atlatl without Javelins equipped damage range: 96~225
Damage dealt:
759 (highest observed)
543 (lowest observed)
713
703
651
649

Average : 670

Bone Atlatl with Long Javelin LT equipped damage range : 106~260
Damage dealt:
819 (highest observed)
623 (lowest observed)
811
669
767
775

Average: 744

From what it seems, my Atlatl counterattack does much more than bare hands, but the odd thing is that my bare hands has a higher max than my Atlatl yet I've never observed higher than a 701 with bare hands. Not even the crits on Bare Hands ever did higher than 700 (perhaps it's because of the Rabbit's low ranked Critical Hit) Maybe I didn't do enough experiments but then it's still odd how a 342 Max damage on average does less than a 260 Max Atlatl damage range. Not to mention my Bare Hand's Minimum Damage exceeds my Atlatl's Maximum Damage. It's very odd.

鍾国豪-BIassreiter (talk)11:52, 2 October 2013
 

A sample size of six is not enough for an accurate interpretation. Thanks though.

Also, what rank Counterattack do you have?

Kave Johnson (talk)12:01, 2 October 2013
 

Rank 1. I think I realized something as to why my Atlatl did more. It's enchanted with Untamed Caliburn, which gives 26 Max. Considering Atlatl does Bare Hand damage, that makes my "Bare Hand" damage 368 Max because of the presence of the enchants. I may be wrong though.

鍾国豪-BIassreiter (talk)12:09, 2 October 2013
 

Yeah my atlatl is chanted as well so can't get an accurate test result

まそっぷ ! (talk)12:31, 2 October 2013
 

Continent Warp to Vales and buy a regular one, then. lol

Kave Johnson (talk)12:37, 2 October 2013
 

Hmm It appears I'm hitting the same with barehanded damage, until I put on a javalin, my case, a regular long one.

まそっぷ ! (talk)12:43, 2 October 2013
 

I think I will run tests on Bows and Crossbows, and then report and edit the page to fix any errors.

Kave Johnson (talk)10:27, 5 October 2013
 

Splash values

from?

What do you mean?

Infodude57519:40, 17 July 2012
 

Err, where do people even normally find splash values?

Infodude57519:44, 17 July 2012
 

itemdb.xml, where this does not seem to exist in.

 

[1] But where did you get it from, Infodude?

Pyro - (Talk)20:56, 17 July 2012
 

I have absolutely no idea... O_o

I think I might have copy-pasted from another page and didn't know about it...

Infodude57521:31, 17 July 2012
 

Does anyone know what clothing is being worn on the current image?

Useless17:23, 7 April 2012

It is a Sandra Sniper Suit (F). You can find a complete list of female clothing here.

Pyro - (Talk)17:33, 7 April 2012