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Generation 17 and Generation 18

Fragment of a discussion from User talk:Kadalyn

Aaaah, thanks. I didn't know about the template page, heh.

Both Shamala and Nightmare are officially considered EP 0 of The Saga: Iria, so it's under that umbrella now. I made a small change to the Generation template and checked it on the affected pages. It worked. Does it also help with the Nightmare redirect problem you mentioned before?

Lalunae (talk)11:27, 13 August 2019

No, if you type Generation 17 into the search bar you'll see a bunch of Nightmare suggestions.

Those redirects do need to be changed, but after figuring out the new structure. That template was only one very small part of a bigger issue.

If it's EP 0, okay, I guess that's sort of how it's considered now by the page name.

These are places I know of off-hand that needs updates. I don't mind doing it myself, but before any edits, I want to know where it shows up in the generation list in game if at all? Or if you start Saga 1, does it start Nightmare first? Is it just something distinct and sort of unofficial like G7? I don't know how it fits in exactly and don't want to go changing names before that.

If it shows up under the G17 veil truly (and I worry about this because it could be a precursor to "saga" more generally than a precursor to only Saga 1), we could simply make Generation 17 a page that lists all the parts of it, including Nightmare. Otherwise, we could make 17 and 18 pages that have the Saga 1 & 2 episode lists respectively, then have a page that contains all the Saga episodes including Nightmare. I can't get in game to look at the list anytime soon, though.

Kadalyn (talk)11:39, 13 August 2019

When you open up the Chapter menu (which replaced the Saga menu) and go over to the first Saga under Chapter 5, it will be listed in the episode list just like any other episode. The quest chain starts at "Black Panther Panic", which is before Nightmare. Specifically the "Shamala" part of Shamala and Nightmare.

  • I have found that "Rumors of Transformation" and "Transformation Training" are now listed under the "Skill" tab in your quest list.

Do you mean that G17 and G18 would redirect to respective disambiguation pages listing out all of the parts/episodes of each? If so, then that works for me.

Lalunae (talk)13:38, 13 August 2019

Okay that sounds good, so Nightmare can go on the G17 page.

I wouldn't call it a disambiguation page really, since they're all parts of one whole (and not distinct entities with name collisions). The Saga: Iria actually exists so I'll just redirect G17 refs there.

Kadalyn (talk)13:51, 13 August 2019
 

I believe I got everything. I feel a little weird about how G17 is in the Patches but it should be okay for now.

Kadalyn (talk)14:51, 13 August 2019

Aww, I would've taken care of it. Thanks a lot. :)

Lalunae (talk)15:45, 13 August 2019