Too much speculation and personal opinion

Copy-paste really gets messed up when quotes are copied, huh...

For the "prove-they're-mortals" argument, I initially made that comment because I did think you wanting to remove them from this page meant you thought they were mortals. As you pointed out, that was wrong. I suppose that's where our opinions differ - if I'm right, you think an item shouldn't be put in a list unless it definitely falls under the list's criteria, while I think an item shouldn't be removed from a list unless it definitely doesn't fall under any of the list's criteria. Actually, screw that, if I thought that an item might be confused as being on the list, I'd add a footnote specifying the item and explaining why it doesn't belong in the list.

So from that point of view, a part of the intention of my argument still stands. Lugh and co has successfully been discredited from the gods' club, but in my view that is not synonymous to showing that they don't belong on the page. I said something similar before - "if it's a discrepancy it's beneficial to note it and clarify it", though you did point out that doesn't seem to be the majority view.

In that case, lemme try a different angle - isn't it slightly more clear to describe a set containing variables as a range, as opposed to a limit?

...Er, where exactly did you say my statement concerning opinions from elsewhere is invalid? Unless you mean that statement about how people don't want to deal with us?

Though, just to be clear, I do consider the "voting" thing you said you conducted valid. To me, asking for their opinion and then posting the results here is close enough to them actually posting here. On the other hand, anything larger than votes, like criticism of the article, please take my suggestion and quote them directly.

I was thinking about rephrasing the Shakespeare trivia myself, actually, with the same aim as you put it. I just didn't bring that up because I though we were still arguing whether the notion itself was valid or not. So, if we rephrase similarly to how you phrased it, you'd be fine with it being put back in?