Talk:Rebis Guard Cylinder

I'm pretty positive it's for Alchemy only, but as a Small-type shield, does it really benefit anyone for melee o -o? I would assume no.

Don't think it'd have much effect, since the highest stamina consuming skills, Smash and Assault Slash, use 10, and cutting it down to 9 won't really do much. Besides, there's far too many stamina regeneration skills so I think stamina reduction is pointless.

Should probably rephrase my question...

Does Stamina Reduction from the rebis upgrades affect melee in anyway?

Did the normal cylinder stamina reduction upgrades affect melee?

can't say for sure. I did a lot of alchemy so I noticed it affected that. Elf has 0 melee skills.

Well damn, it does affect combat.

What does this mean? You lose 7% of your critical against enemies? Enemies have 7% more critical chance? You gain 7 Protection? You gain 3.5 Protection (-7% critical chance from enemies?) Or is it just a deduction of critical chance from enemies, without the damage reduction that normally accompanies Protection?

It adds 7 protection, you can check comparing with and without the guard cylinder. critical is unchanged, other than the bonus from the skill when equipped with another cylinder -goes to change-

-EDIT- apparently this is not changeable, due to the nesting bull that is the equipment templates, the value in what appears to be the appropriate field is correct, but there seems to be no way to change what it says: "attacked_critical_bonus="7&quot" It's like the equipment templates actually hinder the ability to edit the wiki

That 7 protection comes from Shield Mastery, small. Hidden Stat bonuses aren't seen in the character stat menu. Also, 7 Prot =/= -7% Critical; its 3.5 Prot = -7% Critical, since every 1 prot = -2% crit.

Its a deduction of critical chance from enemies. If it added protection, it would also affect damage reduction and wounding, which it doesn't.

I see, I thought I had remember seeing shield change my screen but I guess not. Regardless, I think it's clear that "-7% critical against enemy attacks" is pretty unclear phrasing, but where do we change it?

Template:StyleWeapon

However, due to its extreme complexity, I highly advise against editing it and let a professional handle it.

actually that field in question is contained in Template:StyleEquip since it appears to be a shield property.

regardless, hopefully changing "critical against enemy attacks" to "to enemy critical chance" is perfectly clear

I'd suggest "-7% to enemy's critical chance (no protection increase)".

The current picture doesn't give a good idea of where each dye portion relates to, could someone upload a better one?

If it's randomized tomorrow and not fixed colors to much of the vain of Shyllien Knuckles and Wireless Concert Mics, Ill see what I can do.

I agree, the gray/green image makes it difficult to see the detail or differences in cylinder texture, while the one from the event more or less highlights everything. Similarly, the quality could stand to be improved.

Some is going to need to upload a dyed version :s...at least you see the three parts.