Talk:Rafting

Dragon Boat

Regarding the new event, I have reason to believe that Stamina controls, very marginally, how fast the boat is going.

I think that if someone could investigate this further, it'd be great. Someone might actually win the event that way. ~Zallist 12:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Tough Thread

Can someone verify from immediate experience that 13-15 stars gives Tough Thread? I've spent quite an amount of time trying and I can't seem to get it to show up. I know rewards are random and some come at lower frequency... but I'm starting to doubt this one shows up at all. -Ineya 21:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Updating?

Should we get started on this? As far as I can tell, the only changes are gold/exp. For 4-6 stars, for example, the gold is unchanged, but the EXP has increased to 920. - BladeBlade

Talking to your ego

When your choosing your reward, if the reward you'd like isn't there you can go into conversation with an ego weapon, and it will reset the random list of rewards. Great way to always get the best rewards. ;o) Might be good to put that. --Simpet 12:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
-If did did actually happen before, it doesn't any more. I've tried this on all 3 trips when I was trying to get an arbalest. The reward didn't change at all.--Sephy 15:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
-As of g13s2 it was fixed so that you can no longer talk to your ego to change rewards.--Riyaku 15:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Randomly Appearing Hobgoblin Warriors?

Is that normal? I get randomly appearing hobgoblin warriors around the first time the raft meets the jumping hobgoblins. About 2~3 will randomly appear on the raft. They don't jump down...
P.S. Why can't I add a topic? --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 23:37, 22 November 2010 (PST)

It's a glitch. When the hob respawns, instead of respawning at the side of the river, it respawns where it died. Basically, using this glitch, it is really easy to get 10+ big stars ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 00:39, 23 November 2010 (PST)

Is there a way to not have this glitch? This never used to happen. --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 02:03, 23 November 2010 (PST)

Nope. It's on nexon's side, so we can't do anything about it ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 03:30, 23 November 2010 (PST)

Since when did this start happening anyways? --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 12:18, 23 November 2010 (PST)

Last patch ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 12:26, 23 November 2010 (PST)

Imps...false information?

It says you can't summon your imp once the raft starts moving, but I have ALWAYS been able to since imps first came out...I know this for fact because sometimes I run out of pots while on the raft, so I summon my imp (my potion-holding pet for obvious reasons) and grab a few. Am I just a special case or...? - xxxTarlachxxx

• Shield of Trust: Can be used.
• Celestial Spike: Can be used.
• Judgment Blade: Cannot be loaded.

• Explosive Kunai and Sakura Abyss do nothing but display the message: "You can't do that on a mount."
• Everything else can be used. However, even with 13 meters from rank 1 mastery and charge, it's still really hard to hit the mobs, even when steering near the shores.

only seems to happen in the beginning. I'm clearly in range then suddenly...I'm int he other side of the raft? and I can't cancel out of the skill either until after they are no longer targeted or target has been switched

another point is before the second resting point...

Due to some desync bug that's been around forever, the Hobgoblin Warriors won't be in the position they appear until you hit them or they hit you. At that point, their position will be correct. Recommended to use windmill to hit them if possible.

Also, I've found that sometimes I can't activate AR/CS while in Combat mode. Simply pressing spacebar to enter Normal mode fixes this.

If these aren't the issues you're talking about, sorry, I can't help.

It's still on going and I use Thunder/Ice Spear. I would target but suddenly be teleported on the other side of the raft.

yeah. It's been an issue for a long time now. Ever since the renewal? Or about that time? I dont remember exactly when it started. It makes everything about rafting quite annoying, though. You're probably better off ballooning.

Probably but I want a becky ._.;; the displacement doesn't help and has been ongoing since...the time of my initial post.

Now I know what you're talking about. It causes my first ranged attack to always miss.

The client thinks you're in the corner closest the enemies, but in reality you're in a different corner. Not sure why this happens, but it only affects the very first attack.

There's 2 ways you can solve this:

1. Use a spam spell like AR and simply let the first shot miss.
2. Use an attack that has a range of at least 2500, so you'll still be in range even in the "other" corner.

Do they ever change colors on items? I swear it never changes...

nevermind it does...it's just subtle @@

Just read the first post and discuss here. .____."

*RAGEQUITTABLEFLIP*

After venting anger on g1 finale Glas all I got to say is...what in the world is devcat thinking? This is probably a bad renewal...though at least they threw in some nice rewards...becky witch dress...yum

Yeah, the Becky dress and the elephant seems decent enough. I dislike how the stars expire, but hell. You lose them anyway if you leave the area. What makes me wonder though, an elephant is 54 stars, and it gives 2920 Exploration Exp. When I could get 6 big stars (30 small stars?) and get over 3000 Exp. Am I correct? It's been a while since I went rafting. So what, are we getting ripped off in that respect? |:
However, the Becky dress is a plus, then they would drop in price even more I guess, depending on a person's desire towards the dress. Everything else seems like crap. And I know a few of my friends who do rafting for money, as in, rafting for gold, or production items to sell, they're going to be super pissed at this. :<

almost 2x work for a 200~ exp decrease...

Yeah, that's the disappointing part. Rafting was one of the main ways I would get exploration exp after rebirth. |:

This would only be a bad update if stars are still divided, otherwise it would make it more abusable... Either it'd be abusable or not worth it. Although, this is the one bad update in a streak of good updates. They'll probably adjust this again after they adjust hot air ballooning.

I don't know, I cannot solo rafting. I need to go with a mage and windmill in the center, otherwise, I wouldn't get very many stars on my own. |:

So in this case, if my theory is correct, you should advantage from this (outside of expl exp). Because then instead of getting half a star per monster you'd get a whole item star. However, this depends on how the stars are distributed. Do you get the items immediately after killing the monster or do you redeem them from the NPCs?

*wyvernhuntsasanalternative* qq

Apparently, the stars are in your inventory as gold. And you go and open an NPC shop with the Native NPC standing by the docks, and you buy the items from the shop with these stars. As far as how the stars are split or distributed, I have no idea. |:

3 day expiration </3

and it will probably 1 star a kill, untradable means.

Lamesauce. |:<

But now the monsters actually give exploration exp for being killed so you get more exploration experience, apparently.

orly...? That...changes everything? qq no levels for me if that's the case D:

Why? This is actually more expl exp per run... (And there's always the elephant statue reward.)

but I cap exploration too easily....e-e;; (still has a ton of statues from various gacha's...) qq

Just how much Expl EXP do dead hobgoblins give?

Not much per but enough to always give more exp than it would now.

wait...do they only give Exploration? or is Normal exp given too?

Probably both. Metus inhabitants and Iria field bosses give both normal and Expl EXP for killing them.

If the stars takes form of a sort of gold items, then does that mean you can stack them from repeated rafting now? Or do they still all vanish if you enter another raft?

Yes, they stack up to 100 per slot and expire after 3 days (if they're like book pages, expiration time is extended by mixing stacks of older stars with more recent stars). If they didn't stack and disappeared after reentering rafting (which they do not), there would be no point to this update.

I dunno..but right now I'm killing off sundials (currently capped...again...D:< Why 180 sundials so hard to get rid of D:!)

I've updated the page to reflect what I've seen has changed in rafting as of the new update.

I'd like to discuss placement of the EXP change, though. Since this is probably the most important change to most people who raft (that and the total lack of Mana herbs and leathers now, I suppose), I think it might need to be highlighted somewhere, but I don't really know. From my experience on the raft (I went twice) I got around 30-50 Exploration EXP per kill, depending on type.

Also, there might be a discrepancy with the Elephant Statue. In shop, it's listed as 2920 Exploration EXP, but they used to be 9000-10000? Can anybody verify this? Thanks.

These elephant statues give 2920 exploration experience. The ones that give 9000-10000 experience are the ones from gachapons. They are "different items" with the same name. Also for the 30-50 exploration experience do not look to be dependent on the type of hobgoblin being killed. Warriors, archers, mages and shield-casters of all kinds all gave me 50 exploration experience. I do get the 30 exploration experience ones, but only once or twice per run. I hypothesize that the 30 exploration experience is due to "experience splitting" when someone did some damage to one but it is killed by someone else.

From reading this I honestly cannot figure out how the random items are even handed out. In addition to choosing tough thread is there a chance of getting an arbalest as well? or is there actually a list of the things I can get and the arbalest will appear as one of them?

the 2nd one.

Waitwhat?

what and what ? i dont get you

nevermind i fixed it.

Harr, I spot a discussion about the Rafting Renewal. Anyway, about exploration experience and rewards and such, at least you'll have a use for those Excess stars now <3

This is not about the rafting renewal. O .o Look at the date, this was a year and a day ago. People already know all about the renewal.

The renewal thread is the one under this...

Yeah sorry >w< (late reply)

This messaging system is still a bit confusing......

During rafting recently the raft would not steer right or follow it's usual path, has anyone else have this problem? (and in one area I could not fire my magic until I was hit )

Normally the raft stays to the left at the fork. Lag may possibly be a problem. Mind explaining what happens?

The raft would resist what direction we would be turning, the raft is moving perfectly fine and would not let us attack the spawn that were pretty much point blank, once we took a hard right and the raft would take a hard left (with the right paddle) (turn like so ----^---- at the spike) and I'm pretty sure the raft doesn't turn that quickly, also when the raft usually turns into a segment of the run (at the fork) where the raft usually turns directly towards the shore it would stay near the middle and turn slightly towards the left bank unlike it's usual b-line. And both times going to dock at the end the raft would zigzag on it's own. Steer right in the last statement was meaning steer correctly sorry about the confusion

I changed the previous text on the page to, "Rafting rewards were revised with the G13S2 update. The following data may be incorrect.". I don't know if the list is correct though, and if it is, that notice really isn't needed, I think? Anyone know if the list is correct?

Btw, I've been using my elf to try to get a Arbalest and stuff and not once has the categories changed... EVER.

So far I exceeded 31 stars about 10 times now.

I think it's really changed with some of the updates.

I've got mine after like 20th time. :/

It hasn't changed since G13S2. It's just very rare.

hum same i raft a lot and always get 6 big and 1 small star no bow :(

its reallllllllyyyyy rare. look at the price in housing.

i got mine after 20th raft (not stops) lol :p

i hate you :( about 100 rafts nohing,.,,