Talk:Generation 8: Dragon

For everyone?

Will G8 be for everyone or just for humans? Would like it if someone knew lol. --Fibbler 19:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it will, seeing as G7 is available to elves, giants, and humans--Dtdsora AKA Viri The White Knight-in-training 17:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about that. It mentions talking to Castanea, something that shouldn't be possible as a giant. --Jerl 07:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

It doesnt matter, giants must sneak up and talk to her. -- Ember Incubus

It is really easy to get caught at Castanea's spot. I got shot while I was talking to her and died. Definitely recommend flying mounts. --Phunkie 05:59, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

When will G8...

Come out in the NA version? And what are the new people/places?--Dtdsora AKA Viri The White Knight-in-training 17:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

We don't know. Please stop asking non-wiki questions on the wiki. Use the forums.

About the Boar Taming Part

I'm confused about this part. When it states "Taming Wild Animals Rank 9, Control of Darkness Rank F, Tikka Wood Taming Cane + Bait Can" does it mean "Taming Wild Animals r9 AND Control of Darkness rF" or "Taming Wild Animals r9 OR Control of Darkness rF"?

("And" as in Taming Wild Animals r9 with your Control of Darkness at rF to clarify.)

Sorry if this is a stupid question. Just seems unclear to me. D: --Revi 02:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It means use rank 9 Taming skilwith tikka cane and bait can or control of darkness F with tikka cane and bait can. -- կրակ^{Ember Incubus} (խոսել^Talk | օգնություն^Contributes)

I'm pretty sure it means use Taming Wild Animals skill while having CoD at the listed rank, since CoD helps Taming's success rate. ---Angevon 02:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

This sure adds to the confusion. xD -Revi 03:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Angevon's answer is the correct one, confirmed by people who have actually done G8. It'd be appreciated it people would stop making wild claims like "use control of darkness with tikka cane and bait". You can't use them together and in fact using CoD doesn't count for this part of the quest, again confirmed by someone who's done G8.--Mystickskye 05:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the clarification. :D --Revi 18:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I was able to tame a boar with r9 taming, no DK skills (I'm a Paladin), a tikka rod, and courcle taming bait. The wiki makes things ambiguous when you're not a DK, so I thought I'd just confirm this here Pleinair 05:32, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I managed to tame the boar with r8 taming, no CoD, Tikka rod and 35 Courcle taming baits used. Logging here just for the record. Maybe if we get enough statistics, we can compile a general chart? --Fulvia 06:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I have tamed the boar with rB taming, no CoD, course rod and 30 courcle bait. stating it is indeed possible -Huobaoshou 19:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I tamed the boar at rB taming, no CoD, Taming Cane from Taunes, and 13 courcle bait. - QuazarGuy 13:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

How many boars do you have to tame anyway? Just 1?--Tricky ^B _Bomb (Talk) 00:23, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Just one. By the way guys, my guild leader supposedly did it at Rank C with 800+ bait. I did it at Rank 9 with 49 bait (Tikka + Courcle Bait). Proof: here. "Rank 6" is just a horrible overestimation. As you can see, I'm a Paladin, not a Dark Knight; I have Rank 9, and I didn't just rank Taming (so I didn't do it at A). I'm sure most people know it's possible at any rank by now though; just very unlikely at lower. Who knows how many it really takes at 9; maybe I just got lucky. Again: proof. -Rusty 20:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I have a better question: does anyone have an idea of the minimum rank with a Courcle Taming Cane (the store-bought one, duh) and Courcle Taming Bait? Assuming CoD RF.Novaix 22:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Do we know how much more success % a Tikka adds compared to Courcle? Probably not; but at most, it can't be more than 10% increased chance; so I'd say Rank 9 with 50~100 bait. Just a guess of course; since Tikka+Courcle Bait takes R9 with about 50 baits for most people. If not that, maybe like, R8 with 50~75 bait? Hard to make a good estimate; if only we had some sort of % successes and stuff. ._. -Rusty 20:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, 100+ Courcle Baits with a Tikka Cane at r9 Taming didn't work. Even at r6 it took me 55 Courcle Baits. I might just be unlucky but it's hard to be that unlucky.--Mystickskye 20:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it really is just luck though. I've r6 taming and tamed it in about 3 tries. A friend of mine at r9 taming used stacks and stacks of bait without taming it and when I went to stalk her, she tamed it on the first bait. It also seems impossible to estimate success rates, considering that we have no idea about general taming rates with Animal Taming anyway. I also don't think that the boar is tameable at "any rate" like Rusty said, there definitely has to be a minimum somewhere. If you're taming at a 0.1% success rate, it's effectively 0, so it's probably just better to rank it up. >_> Beepuke 05:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Just noting that I tried taming using 400+ baits at r9 with an Ancient Taming Cane. No luck. I got a tikka cane and got the boar in four tries. I'm a Pally, too. --Haven923

I'm a Paladin with r9 Taming, Tikka Wood Taming Cane, and Courcle Taming bait. Took me 11 tries.--Azurebalmung 05:18, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Looks like both TW and JP wikis are now confirming (at least after g10) that one can tame the boar with just rC taming and tikka rod with nothing else. Just need to be patient. The TW reference has changed, our current rank requirements have no basis anymore. We should get the same thing as we import some of our data from latest kr client. Can anyone do us a big favor and test rC + tikka rod for 2000+ baits? Looks like they are saying CoD has no effect either...--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 04:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I tested rC+tikka but.. unfortunately I have rE CoD, and got it in 7 tries; so would rF have the same effect but at a sorta lower % rate? SoraHikari 03:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

rC tikka, pally not dk. 30~40 tries -- ladywinter ~{talk page}~ 07:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I've dont it with no CoD rC taming+Ancient it didn't take too long.--Kirara111 00:01, 24 November 2010 (PST)

I was able to do it with rC taming, rF Control of Darkness, ancient taming cane,and about 50 courcle taiming bait... xD it took me ages and was frustrating but I got it. --Lorgaenia 17:03 08 May 2011 (EDT)

What rank of Taming?

What rank of taming is required, anyways? --Fastway 06:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

f or higher

oppsies i forgot to add m sig --..... 05:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Nexon Strategy Guide

Nexon has a strategy guide available, hidden on their site. I probably should've mentioned this before so people could've edited the info in, but it honestly slipped my mind. Sorry.

Prologue Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6 Part 7

Part 4 has the Volcano Boar section, but unfortunately it doesn't mention any specific rank, so that's not much help either. No idea how much help it'll be overall, but it's there for anyone who wants to transfer some information over. --Duet 09:22, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Random Facts for G8

About the Unicorn in Par. According to the Japanese Wiki, there are numerous things that should/should not be mentioned / are not worth mentioning, but still good to know.

1. You may ride the Unicorn once you tame it. Giants are an exception. Taunes is an exception to the exception.
2. Even if you score a Huge Lucky Finish on the Unicorn, it won't drop any gold.
3. It is possible to create a statue of the unicorn by using a pet Mimic.
4. Once tamed, you get a STR, DEX, and INT bonus of +15 each.
5. It is possible to find a Snow Crystal at the end of the dungeon, if you kill the Unicorn. The Snow Crystal is used laster on in the Mainstream Quest.
6. There may be a bug when you talk to Atrata to complete the quest in which the "Finish Conversation" button is unavailable to click. This can be fixed by changing to Full Screen or Windowed Mode.
7. It is possible to tame the Unicorn with Practise or Rank F Taming. However you'll need higher ranks to finish the Mainstream so it doesn't really matter.

Number 5; I got a Snow Crystal without killing the Unicorn (I tamed it, like I was supposed to). -Rusty 07:25, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

About the continuous stream of taming animals thing. The data on the Japanese Wiki is different from the data on this wiki right now (Most probably derived from Korean Wiki) so I'm not sure which is correct. I'll put it in table format to make it more appealing to the eye. After the patch, if anyone could be kind enough to test this out even further.

Control of Darkness Rank	Tikka Wood Cane	Ancient Cane	Courcle Cane
None	Rank C	Rank C	Rank A
Control of Darkness F	Rank D	-	-
Control of Darkness E	-	-	-
Control of Darkness D	-	-	-
Control of Darkness C	Rank D	-	-
Control of Darkness B	-	-	-
Control of Darkness A	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 9	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 8	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 7	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 6	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 5	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 4	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 3	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 2	-	-	-
Control of Darkness 1	-	-	-

• Possible Spoiler* Phaselus, for those who have never had an elf do the Falcon Quest, or didn't pay attention, is the real name of Yoff, the Desert Specter who resides in the Connous Arena. Sephy 04:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Effectiveness of Baits

I know the wiki page contain using normal courcle bait, but I was able to tame the boar on my 3rd try with Rank A taming, Tikka Training Cane, and Tupai Training Bait. No Control of Darkness either. Can anyone else confirm this other than me? ~ Miyuna

Well I've been using the Tikka cane, and Courcle bait, with rank E Control of Darkness, dragging rank D Taming. I'll see if I can tame it with Tupai bait. If I can, than that means Tupai bait drastically increases the chances of taming, since I failed a good 1000 or so courcle.--Tricky ^B _Bomb (Talk) 01:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

30 Wyvern killing

Do they have to be killed by the player doing g8 or does party killing count. ~ Hikarixz

nvm it does count. I just tested. ~ Hikarixz

I'm not sure, but I think you don't need the full star. When I did it I noticed that I got credit with only 1/3 a star. Needs to be checked for validity. --Haven923

Bait can....?

*points at the second quest thing* Erm...yea.....what?--^♪♫_♪♫ѕταя♪^♫♪_♫^ταιқ♪♫_♪ 14:21, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Taming Wild Animals. So yeah.Novaix 00:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Taming the Unicorn

I managed to do it with the skill at Rank C, with both lowest-success bait and cane. Took about 40ish baits. Just wanted to record this somewhere. How many baits did it take you guys? --Phunkie 22:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

r9 with Tikka Cane and Courcle Bait, two attempts.--Mystickskye 22:04, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Did this with Novice Tame and the Taunes-provided bait and cane in six tries. I just figured that part wasn't supposed to be difficult... Of course, now I'm ranking Tame for the rest of G8. XD --RaccoonGoon 07:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Rank E (i think), Taunes cane/bait, 2 tries--Dtdsora- no page as of yet- u can make it urself 06:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I got it with rF taming. I only used the bait from Taunes and ended up running out and haveing to start over with more bait. This was on my elf. I think I had higher rank on my Pally human. --Haven923

Rank f taming and CoD, ran out of Tauntes's bait and didn't have more taming bait with me so i CoDed it and screwed around ruining from giant guards with 2 unicorns till the mirror witch's disappeared, then went back and got it in ~15 tries.--Sozen Cratos Focker 08:17, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I tamed it on the first try with taunes stuff, R9 taming. =D --Yuuka 08:39, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

First try with a Tikka Wood Taming Cane, r9 Taming, Taunes' bait, and no CoD. Though it took me four tries to find out how low its health had to be so that I could tame it xD.--Azurebalmung 03:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

1%

is there even a 1 percent chance that you can tame a Volcano Horned Wild Boar in f rank

If there is a chance(I'm 95% sure there is), it's less than 1%, it's been tried by plenty of people. it took me a little over 200 tries at rank A Taming, C CoD & a Tikka cane, to tame it with animal taming.(Too bad using CoD doesn't count, I got it on the first try with rank f CoD) --Sozen Cratos Focker 08:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Red Dragon Encounter: Naked?

Sounds preposterous. I'd say it needs more testing.--Demaetri (Talk) 03:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Proven false. Removed from section.--Demaetri (Talk) 21:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

It was probably a misinterpretation, because most people fight him to avoid blessing/item loss.Novaix 00:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

NA version of G8 Starting quest(s)

To get the quest, you don't have to speak to the person with The Oblivious Elves, the quest arrives by owl--Dtdsora- no page as of yet- u can make it urself 23:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Kelpies RP

Everyone has to agree with me. They give you absolutly NO means of healing, other than rest, and it doesn't give you ANY means of healing wounds!!--Dtdsora- no page as of yet- u can make it urself 05:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

yes are aware of it but whats the whole point of this? Anyways, as mentioned in the Wiki, using the sketch paper will net u experience to level up and fully heal--Marthian 06:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Sketching Crumena

Only gave me 200 Exploration EXP... I was aiming towards 2000. But maybe that's for the Red Dragon field boss instead. --Phunkie 04:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

NPCs

Where it shows the NPCs involved, shouldn't Crumena and Ruairi be listed? Bidica 21:14, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Cromm should be listed as well. Maybe they went by "NPCs You Talk To." However, all of the ones you mentioned, as well as Cromm are involved. We should edit that. --Phunkie 08:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Added Cromm, Crumena, Ruairi and Adniel to the NPC list. --Phunkie 08:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Bait + Boar taming combinations

I removed the bait and some of the combinations.

I stated in the Instructions of that part of the quest that Rank 9 was the general minimum, so I guided myself by that. I removed Rank 6 Taming Animals and etc, since if Rank 9 works, of course Rank 6 will work even better.

As for the bait, I removed it because it is variable for each person. Took me like 20-30 tries to tame my Boar at Rank 9 Taming with Courcle Baits. Some people it took them 100 tries.

However, thank you. :) I just didn't want that part of the guide to look too cluttered with stuff. It's easy to have the minimum requirements instead of all the possible ones. --Phunkie 18:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Missing quests

"Legatus' Advice" isn't listed. Instead, it is combined into "Red Dragon Encounter."

We should add it.--Phunkie 22:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Seconded --Haven923

Go for it. --- Angevon (Talk) 16:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Confused..

In the Irinid's Curse quest it says that Using Control of Darkness does not count towards the quest, but under the combinations on how to tame the boar, it says Rank D Control of Darkness, Rank 6 Control of Darkness, ETC. Can someone explain? D: --Rainney

(I think) it means if you are a Dark Knight and you have Rank X Control of Darkness. --Jαy 02:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that's probably it. >_< Thanks! :3 --Rainney 02:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm confused too. If your Elf/Human-alligned, then how are you supposed to do the 1st part? Krug & Taunes are both Giants in Vales, and we will get killed if we step in. ~ Darkblade132

those 2 giants will talk to you instead of just giving the "called guards" message. the extra guard that attacks only you will show up after you click end conversation. so as long as you don't get noticed, you won't be attacked till after you finish.--Sozen Cratos Focker 07:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Darkblade, it says "For Giants, Giant-supporting Humans, and neutral Humans only." You don't need to do that part. --Phunkie 14:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Should we include this part?

Under the Legatus' Advice part should we include that when you go over to SouthEast of Raspa Volcano with an Snow Crystal and get the cutscene it disappears? SoraHikari 23:01, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

yes--Sozen Cratos Focker 03:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Red Wings?

I think this may have come with the G12 update, but Effie gives you Red Wings to Calida and Quilla for the first quest, should this be included? -RedHound 22:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Go, but you have to confirm it first. Infodude575 19:49, 1 December 2010 (PST)

Confirmed, and added. Though, does anyone know how to create a redirect page? Only 'cause I'm a grammar nazi and had to say "Red Wings". AKAAkira 01:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll just leave them here...

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I'm in the process of running this Generation. Anything in particular I should be on the look out for to add to the Wiki? Unfortunately, I missed getting a screen shot of Cromm Cruaich during the opening to replace the jpeg.

Replace the Jpegs where necessary. Keep an eye out on any changes as well.

Some of those I should be able to pull out of the client files.

Update for Generation 14, Season 4 please!

Hey, can anyone check and see if using musical taming counts for this quest? It's such a rarely used item, so I can't blame it for being overlooked.