Talk:Gems

Linking

I truely don't think we need to link the Gem types on the page to the gems, which would just redirect to this page.

The relevant NPC pages are collecting data on what "prize" the NPC may return if gifted an appropriate gem. They're recording gem sizes in a format like "3cm+", suggesting we believe that a particular prize might arise for any gem of 3cm or more. Unless someone found some docs saying this is true, I think we should also be recording an upper limit, being the largest gem that got that prize. The upper limit might be lower than 10cm.

Each NPC seems to have 2 possible responses to receiving their preferred gem. The responses can be quite long, so the quotes below are just snippets. I'm showing the size of gems that have triggered each response. I don't have useful responses for diamond yet, or indeed all relevant NPCs.

• Ethna - Jasper
  • "It's smaller than I hoped but still precious. 1.11cm - 6.00cm.
  • "Jeez, look at this size!" 8.00cm - 10.00cm
• Simon - Ruby
  • "Oh, look at this small yet beautiful gem," 5.00cm
  • "I've never seen such a big and beautiful ruby before." 9.00cm - 10.00cm
• Jennifer - Garnet
  • "Is this for me?" 5.00cm - 6.00cm
  • "Wow, this gem is really big." 9.00cm - 10.00cm
• Voight - Emerald
  • "It's smaller than I hoped." 5.00cm
  • "Oh my, where did you ever find such a big emerald?" 7.10cm - 9.00cm

So, my first guess is that there are only 2 size ranges of relevance in determining the possible prizes. The borderline is somewhere in the range 6cm and 7.1cm. So, we might find each NPC has two separate prize lists they choose from, one for big gems, one for small. Except that some items have been received with both small and big gems, so maybe the "big" list is a subset of the "small" list. The only way we'll manage to verify this - or prove it wrong - is if we record both the smallest and largest gem that gave each prize.

Anyway, I'm a little overloaded with gems it the moment, so I'm going to gift a few more and see if I can narrow down the ranges. I'll update the above numbers with what I find.

What is the %Chance of getting a gem while preforming metallurgy? And does anything alter this chance?

“	Gems appear randomly alongside ore fragments.	„
—Metallurgy

Even if there were a success rate, I don't think anything would affect it.

There should be some type of probability, even if nothing affects it. Random to any computer is like humans rolling a dice If the probability is not constant, than there would be a constant probability that randomly decides the probability. Do to the fact that it is a computer program, the programmer(s) would have to put the probability in there somewhere. By random it likely means like rolling a dice, or flipping a coin.

That's nowhere near how "random" works in programming.

With that side, of course there is a probability, however we will never be able to find the true probability without access to the server, which of course, we do not have. The best we can do is an estimate, which requires a lot of research that has not been done yet.

You could volunteer and do said research and find said estimated probability. Then you could post your research on the wiki so those who wonder the same question can have an answer.