User talk:Irjustman/Archived/2010/Q2

small proposal

Hello there, given some recent events in the past month or so, i'd like to request that we edit the upload file pages to have a bolded or bannered message prompting people to read the image policy before uploading images. I've noticed an increase in people creating accounts to upload pictures of new items without having read the image policy, and as a result they tend to take it personally when someone replaces the images with ones in accordance to policy, and it causes alot of edit/revert wars. It might also help with the amount of unused files that get uploaded. Miyani 22:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm actually not the best person to talk with about this. You might want to bring this up with User:Angevon or one of the other senior editors. I just host the wiki and maintain the hardware and software which host it. However, I'm in pretty constant contact with her, so I'll pop her a heads-up on that. Thanks! --Irjustman 18:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I just spoke with Angevon; as it turns out, she was the one who directed you my way. I'll work on that as time makes itself available to me. --Irjustman 20:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Person attempting to make a page on glitching

User:H1111 is the User, Glitching is the page that they made, I've blanked it, and am going to write a note in the discussion page, but this should probably be watched or something. Posted this to Angevon's talk page too. -- Ladywinter 03:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

robots.txt

You should change your robots.txt to:

User-agent: Googlebot/2.X (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)
Disallow:
User-agent: Google
Disallow:
User-agent: googlebot
Disallow:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

So it allows googlebot to index your pagesa and blocks the rest. It might come in useful when your server is down or under heavy load -Kotarou3 11:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll certainly give it consideration, but please, please, PLEASE read the header of my page. You must sign any contribution you make to my page. Thank you. --Irjustman 09:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, i forgot =.=" -Kotarou3 11:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I took a look at the server. The policy in place is to block absolutely all spidering by search engines. I now remember specifically putting that there, and I'm not removing it. --Irjustman 09:19, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Aww, but it really helps when you can hardly get a connection with the server during peak times :O -Kotarou3 11:40, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm saying that the site cannot be spidered by ANY engine, including Google. Or at least, those that read and obey robots.txt. --Irjustman 18:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I think he may mean that google cache is useful when certain text based sites is down or slow.--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 20:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

If you can't let google cache your pages, then you could always let others mirror the wiki. Run this weekly (replace ${mediawiki} with the location of where mediawiki is installed (eg. /var/www/wiki)):

cd "${mediawiki}/maintenance/"
sudo chmod a+x dumpBackup.php
sudo php dumpBackup.php --current > ~/dump.xml
sudo chmod 777 ~/dump.xml
gzip -9 ~/dump.xml

This script works on bash but might work on sh too. Modify if needed. The dump will now be in your home directory named "dump.xml.gz" and be compressed already. You can now put this somewhere on the webserver for others to download ~kotarou3 (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations

Happy to see you got the new server going and thank you for your past and present efforts *salutes the benevolent dictator* XD --ZRoc (Talk) 02:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

• adds fistbumping and salutes and thumbs up* ^_^b -- ladywinter ~{talk page}~ 02:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. I can't tell you how much I appreciate everyone's support in making this happen. As you can probably already tell, this thing absolutely smokes. Furthermore, it gives us a LOT more room to grow, in terms of memory, computing horsepower, and a few other things. It was well worth all the time and effort we all put into this, and I hope you enjoy the fruits of all our work. --Irjustman 08:53, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

• also adds fistbumbing and salutes* --Sozen Cratos Focker 09:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Uh oh...?

Yo, IJ. For some reason, whenever I visit anyone's userpage, I get redirected to their contribution page. Any idea why? It doesn't happen for user talk pages, but also occurs when I go to the "edit" page. Even occurs on my own user page. o_O Is it just me? --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 04:21, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's just bloody odd. Is it this way logged in, out, or both? I visited your user page and got your main page. Does anyone else see such strangenessness? Thanks! --Irjustman 16:48, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Not me. --ZRoc (Talk) 19:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Me neither--Sozen Cratos Focker 05:28, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh god. Disregard all that. I just realized I left Greasemonkey active. I had a script that would redirect to a user's contributions. I used it a while ago to check for users with no contributions and forgot it even existed. So sorry for the confusion. --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 22:52, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Problem

Not sure if it's me or the wiki but I get this error message across the top of all wiki pages and not any other website's pages;

Warning: Parameter 1 to Language::getMagic() expected to be a reference, value given in /home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/includes/StubObject.php on line 58

Also, the "user page", "discussion", "edit", "history", "move" and "watch" tabs are seperated from the top of each wiki page (they now float about 3/4 of a cm above it). Sorry to bother you if this has nothing to do with your server or software. --ZRoc (Talk) 19:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

It's due to the fact that Lucid Lynx uses PHP 5.3.2. One of the extensions does not like 5.3.2. I have sent a report to the devs. In the meantime, I am going to downgrade PHP and its modules to 5.3.0 or 5.2.10 to see if that alleviates the problem. --Irjustman 19:24, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

OK and thank you for the quick reply :) --ZRoc (Talk) 19:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Good news! Turns out I didn't have to downgrade. And it was a one-character fix in one of the core MediaWiki files. Cyrus also informs me that a number of other items she was observing which apparently rely on this also work as they should now. I only didn't do much on this because when I discovered this issue, it was close to 3:30am and I couldn't do much deep research while at work. The best I could do was let the devs know; one got back to me with this fix. If you see anything else, please let me know. --Irjustman 21:52, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem and sorry to see your on a night shift (I hated night shifts, probably why I don't sleep normally now lol). --ZRoc (Talk) 22:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

No big deal, though actually, I work in the day from 10a-7p, but I was working on this very late at night. Anyway, I think we're otherwise good to go here. --Irjustman 23:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I think you should downgrade the PHP version. It seems ever since you upgraded, other than the getMagic error, newly uploaded images are showing up entirely black. --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 08:56, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Server cannot process PNGs

Whenever i upload a 100% PNG and look at its page, about 6 errors come up at the top of the page and the picture is completely black.
Errors are:

Warning: imagecreatefrompng() [function.imagecreatefrompng]: '/home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/images/3/34/Lostelf10.png' is not a valid PNG file in /home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 194

Warning: imagesx() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 212

Warning: imagesy() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 212

Warning: imagecopyresampled() expects parameter 2 to be resource, boolean given in /home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 212

Warning: imagedestroy() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/wwwhome/mabinogiworld.com/wiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 219

~kotarou3 (talk) 22:06, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay; I have changed the config to use ImageMagick to do the resizing rather than using PHP's gd support until I can find a workable solution. Hope this helps. --Irjustman 10:38, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Isnt ImageMagick better than gd? ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 11:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no idea. I haven't played with either one to tell the difference. The main thing I'm concerned about is does it work? I've already had to putz enough with PHP more than I already care for (since I consider it to be a serious threat to system security) and I'd rather not have to deal with it any more than I already have. --Irjustman 20:00, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Nop, it doesnt work. At least ImageMagick shows the error in the picture. Look at media:Lostelf02.png ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 23:50, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Upload it again. The file is corrupt. --Irjustman 04:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Ugh, something else is wrong. The uploading ITSELF is having a problem, and it only seems to be affecting PNGs. I'll continue to work the issue until I find a resolution. --Irjustman 04:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, here's what I know thus far: The image scaling only indicates a problem. It's not the problem itself. The real problem is that PNGs don't upload properly. We know it affects PNGs and ONLY PNGs. The next two questions are how this happens and why only they are affected. --Irjustman 05:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

JPG upload broken? The jpg of the corrupted png i uploaded seems to be incorrectly processed too. See it here and this is the wiki page for it, showing a different version of the error. This is a corrupted image of a corrupted image lol.--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 08:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I have also tested with a very barebones HTML and PHP script. It corrupts absolutely EVERY upload I can throw at it, usually with the first 128 kilobytes. I'll repeat, the problem is NOT with image processing but with uploads in general. The image processing works exactly as it should since pre-existing images work fine. And it appears to be a PHP problem, not a MediaWiki problem. I will check the bugs database at Ubuntu to see what I can learn about it thus far, reporting as necessary. --Irjustman 09:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Have you checked the php configuration file? (i think it was called php.conf, usually in /etc/apache2/php or /etc/php5)

Theres a variable about the max size of the file you can upload. Also, try reinstalling/downgrading php using aptitude ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 10:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I honestly don't know what the problem is right now. I attempted to downgrade PHP and it's STILL giving me fits. I may have to downgrade Apache as well. --Irjustman 11:24, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Turns out the problem is NOT with PHP, but with Apache! I'm now running with PHP from Lucid (which is current with the running distribution), but I had to downgrade to Apache from Karmic (which is not; it is running from the previous distribution). I also had to go back to GD for thumbnails; I wasn't having luck with ImageMagick. So now, hopefully, everything works as it should Please report any further issues to me so I can keep on top of them. --Irjustman 11:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Yup, now it works. Better wait for those bug fixers around the world to fix the newer apache... ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 06:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, even more specific information which I have been able to verify. The problem is actually with mod_fcgid; the rest of Apache is fine. And it's already being worked on as we speak. In the meantime, the only package that has a problem now is mod_fcgid; Apache has now been upgraded to what's in Lucid. --Irjustman 08:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Made a boo boo and wanted to explain myself

I uploaded the wrong image set on the Colin Plate Armor set, (it was requested in the talk page that a better lit set to be provided) usually after i upload images to the wiki i move them to a special folder just for such images. Unfortunately, i did not do that with my recent bonita dress uploads, and accidently uploaded that set of images. I've replaced it with the proper images already, but i thought i'd explain myself to an admin before i got in trouble. i'm very sorry about the mistake. Miyani 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi there!

To be perfectly honest, I'm not the best person to let know about this; I just make sure the wiki actually works and runs at all, along with its underlying infrastructure. You might wanna pop Angevon a heads-up about it. In any event, I'm not in the slightest bit upset because I don't play a direct role other than be the server's caretaker, which reminds me, I need to make an update. --Irjustman 08:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Maintaining Wiki

Bad sysop, bad boy! Someone who runs a wiki for a hobby on his own server, should drop everything and make sure it's running 24/7! The users of this wiki have the god given (says an atheist lol) right to always be able to have edit wars, criticise the sysop's methods and generally abuse a free service. If you can't make this unreasonable demand work then I think you should resign... *oops, if sysop resigns then no wiki*... OK I'll overlook it this time. Joking, please don't kill my access and thank you for fixing the problem (I was having withdrawal symptoms T.T) --ZRoc (Talk) 07:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree though ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 10:48, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I hope your agreeing with thanking IJ for fixing the problem XD. The rest was a sarcastic joke, poking fun at anyone who would complain about the the wiki going down, when it's not only free to use but also uses IJ's time and money (well my money too but I willingly donated that). If we want full-time maintenance then we better start paying for full-time staff lol. --ZRoc (Talk) 11:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

By the way, the wiki really is popular! Saw at least three seperate in-game conversations, whithin 1 hour (real time), where someone wanted info, they were then told to "wiki" it and after a short wait would tell everyone that the wiki was down. By their annoyed attitude, it looks like they really depend on us cause they didn't bother going to another site =3 --ZRoc (Talk) 11:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

No doubt, people are gonna start more mirroring if the wiki isn't on 24/7!--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 12:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

You mean like a Wiki Ark? Save the important pages? :O --Miyuna 12:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

You can Export all the pages by using Category:Main_Category ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 21:52, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Must have been what the Mabi EU wiki did to get there "official" info XD. Nice to know that plagiarism is alive and well on the net. Oh well, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... as long as they give us credit >=3. --ZRoc (Talk) 00:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, the mysql server or mysqld crashes almost every day during the late night to early morning (PST). OR something is deleting the mysql socket ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 06:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I can tell you what's wrong. The RAID arrays die for whatever reason, and that action takes the mounts with it. Since I run the MySQL databases in their own partition and it quite frequently happens there, if it takes out the filesystem to the point where it essentially force-umounts the filesystem out from under MySQL, MySQL itself dies. I haven't had the time to really sit down and figure things out. However, the real solution is to get a hardware RAID controller and run things that way. However, real (not as in these cheap "RAID" controllers; I'm talking about something from 3Ware or the like) controllers are not cheap, starting at about $300-500. Anyway, I'm still trying to figure this one out. --Irjustman 06:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Although access has occasionally been slow, even with the new server, this is the first time in the last couple of months that I received that "cached page" message (and definitely the longest its lasted lol). I live in Australia and that means I'm on the wiki late night to early morning PST, so I think I'd notice that happening almost every day. --ZRoc (Talk) 07:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

No wonder your on when im on, im aussie too ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 11:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

...fearless leader is indeed fearless with dealing with all these technical issues. A COMMENDATION! ~hands over metaphorical award/kudos/props/gladtidings~ -- ladywinter ~{talk | contribs}~ 07:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Ladywinter, thank you very much for fixing the problem. and here is your heroic star medal!Miyani 09:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Reward for fixing wiki technical issues.

Foreseen stress on the system, heads up

The monster template I've been working on is approaching done, and I was thinking of implementing it on 1am on a Monday, when most people will probably be asleep. Should I change the time in your opinion? Would some other low-impact night work better for you so that you might be on standby (should you want to be) ? -- ladywinter ~{talk | contribs}~ 16:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I am going to be installing some replacement hard drives before too long, so there will be some outage, and I hope to have that done well ahead of any sort of activity takes place, hopefully with some manner of results so I can see whether replacing the drives will have the desired effect. --Irjustman 03:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)