Copyright Infrigment

http://mabinogi.nexon.net/News/Announcements/1/00IiJ

• Due to copyright issues, the following books will be removed:
  • It's a 'paper airplane' that flies.
  • Enchant, Another Mysterious Magic

Eh? What is this, I don't even... These books have existed for 7/8 years and only now a copyright issue's happening?

Anyway, are these books to be archived or deleted due to the "copyright" thingy?

I was thinking the same thing, the books have been around this long, why would a copyright issue just suddenly pop up now? Wish i could answer your question tho.

Some people are just very slow at catching these kind of things. I remember when a youtube video, which was like 4 years old, had it's music taken out because of copy rights issues. After 4 years.

As for removing it or archiving, I have no idea since we never had a case like this.

Someone told me that these books were actually written by KR Mabi players. No idea how the copyright laws work for overseas though.

Until our admins get served a takedown notice, we legally do not need to take any actions.

“	You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!	„

You're pretty much saying "anything that's illegal is legal until you get caught."

I have no idea why you're quoting that rule. This content was added before anyone knew it had any copyright issues so it was in compliance with the rules as far as anyone knew at the time. If you want to remove it now, then you can, but we don't have to do it immediately if anyone has better ideas.

Doing something and not knowing it is illegal doesn't make it any less illegal.

I don't care whether it gets removed. I'm just challenging logical fallacy.

I don't know what answer to give that you would accept, but I don't believe I'm wrong. I think you may have unreasonable expectations.

If you plagiarize something without knowing what plagiarism is, is it no longer plagiarism?

That's not the same situation. And it doesn't matter.

If you infringe someone's copyright without knowing it is copyrighted work, is it no longer copyright infringement?

This argument is pointless and will not affect the actions taken by the moderation team at this time. The current decision stands that we will not interfere with how people decide to handle these two books on the wiki unless we are served a takedown request. In the meantime, people are free to do whatever they want with these two books. I will not be replying any further unless I find a pressing reasont o.

Again, I'm not trying to get the page taken down or whatnot. I'm trying to understand why you don't think copyright infringement is an issue and why you think it "doesn't matter".

“	In the meantime, people are free to do whatever they want with these two books.	„

You're literally encouraging people to potentially get themselves in trouble (though no one cares for these books) in the event that the copyright holders do decide to take legal action against any infringements.

I'm fairly certain the legal action would be "take that down right now" and in which case Blargel said they'd do that if asked (or rather told) to do-so...

A takedown request / cease and desist is not legal action; there is no prosecution taking place. A lawsuit, however, is one.

And that quote isn't about what the wiki will face. Since Blargel wishes to encourage usage of the copyrighted material, he's exposing people to possible legal action being taken against said people, since unknowing people may use this copyrighted material without knowing it is such (cause, you know, material on a wiki should either be a) public domain or b) copyrighted w/ permission).