First pattern discovered!

Now that the initial table is complete, comparing the stats given for each item is much easier. Accordingly, I've discovered a pattern that is easy to see with just the '# Sign's!

• The stat boosted is based on the item's ID.
  • This confirms that items with various prices but the same ID all give the same stat.
• The stat boosted for the female spirit is the stat boosted for the male spirit of the item with an ID 1 higher.
  • In other words, if "5 Sign" (ID 40062) gives the Male Blunt str, then "4 Sign" (ID 40061) will give Female Blunt str.
• Similarly, all the types simply offset the ID:
  • Male Sword: 1
  • Female Sword: 2
  • Male Blunt: 3
  • Female Blunt: 4
  • Male Wand: 5
  • Female Wand: 6
  • Male Bow: 7
  • Female Bow: 8
  • Male Cylinder: 15
  • Female Cylinder: 16

As to how the stat is determined from the ID, that pattern has yet to be discovered...

Just an FYI for the future, we aren't supposed to be openly discussing item ID # and client file data here on the wiki.

Although that is an interesting discovery.

Considering the pattern depends on the item ID #, how else can I word it?

We could compile a list of which combinations for each spirit translate to which combinations for others to prove we would have eventually found that pattern without data mining anyway, and use those patterns to fill out more of the table.

Sidenote: Why are we taking orders from Nexon in the first place? we're not directly affiliated with them in any way.

Technically, the wiki is an official fansite, according to one of Sabina's posts on the nx forums.

As for the patterns... :>

Oh, right, that... They threatened to take the "official" out of our "official fansite" title, and make us less official, more of a fansite and more of a real wiki (Though I don't know if anyone ever took our official recognition from Nexon too seriously, or even read the Erin walker page or other pages where they mentioned us).

Forget my idea for a list of dependencies, there are 1.6k possibile values for that...

For the record, I discovered the pattern from the '# Sign's. I only confirmed it was the ID that set the order through the data mining.

Can't we sneak the ID's into the template like the buy price already is? As long as the ID itself isn't clearly visible, they shouldn't have a problem...

Snow made a nice picture that illustrates the pattern (no data mining required):

It's in there. Lul.

I don't know what you're talking about the buy price, though. How's it sneaky?

Anyone have a male bow spirit? Feed it a bouquet and tell me its stat please. :>

Like the table indicates, the stat is luck. Why?

Because there are 2 versions of bouquet (with different ids). The data in the tables is mixed.

It's sneaky because it's not clearly visible when you look at the result.

I didn't know each item had one until I happened to notice it while checking item prices for some of the unknown item values (for egos).

There's nothing sneaky about buy price. It's visible in game for almost anything you can buy from npcs, and for everything else, we could still get it without data mining by deriving it from everything else that stat regulates(time on ground b4 it poofs, repair costs, lost and found retrieval cost, bank and mailbox fees, ego food, and possibly campfire burn exp) We've known about what else is determined by buy price about as long as the game has been out. ID on the other hand isn't visible anywhere ingame, and so far we have no way to find the exact number without data mining.

All those methods would give you the price depending on its "current price", not the "base price", not to mention some of those methods giving inaccurate results (disappearing time).

As Kevin mentioned, the actual "buy price" isn't actually visible anywhere, since the only visible one is a multiple.

More to the point, the reason I said it was sneaky was because the data's in the wiki, but not actually printed out.

It is, if you hover over the NPC resale price...

Well, score another feature that most people don't know about because it's the ONLY cell that does that.

Because it was for testing purposes.

Well, if you consider the buy price "sneaky", then the ID is a master ninja.

Yeah, putting the number in hex AND throwing two extra hex numbers after it is quite the ninja.

Ninja enough so that you don't notice at the first glance. Now nexon can take down the wiki! :>

I could've made it way more ninja, but I needed to keep it simple enough so that I can copy/paste it quickly without having to do anything else.

So does anyone know how to turn this into a table that fills itself? Or what more do we need?

You mean make a style template for each line, like we did for the list pages?

We'd probably have to deal with the issue of multiple item entries first.

It doesn't matter to me how its done. The question I'm asking is if we have enough information to have a 100% filled and accurate table with this.

To answer "do we have enough information", no.

Okay, so what more do we need?

Where it repeats, if it does. If not, what is the full pattern?

If we can find the pattern for 1 ego, then we can find it for all of them, but without that one ego, we can't do much.

I've got a series of about 90 items marked down with their stats, but I still don't see any obvious pattern. It seems quite random at the moment.

They're consecutive, right? What are the 90 stats?

Name	SWORDM	SWORDF	BLUNTM	BLUNTF	WANDM	WANDF	BOWM	BOWF							CYLINDERM	CYLINDERF
										int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int
									int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will
								int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str
							int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex
						int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int
					int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str
				int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str
			int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str
		int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int
Longsword	int	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int
Broadsword	dex	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str
Bastard Sword	will	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck
Long Bow	str	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck
Composite Bow	luck	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck
Fluted Short Sword	str	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will
Warhammer	int	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str
Mandolin	will	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck
Ukulele	str	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int
Broad Stick	dex	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck
Wooden Club	int	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck
Torch Stick	str	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck
Gathering Axe	str	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will
Gathering Knife	str	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will
Blacksmith Hammer	int	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int
Pickaxe	int	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str
Sickle	str	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str
Weeding Hoe	luck	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will
Krutta Broadsword	luck	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex
Grandfather's Bow	luck	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will
Two-handed Sword	will	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will
Crossbow	str	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will
Gargoyle Sword	luck	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int
Claymore	int	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck
Wooden Cane	luck	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will
Torch Stick (Cut Scene Only)	luck	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int
Machete	luck	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck
Butcher Knife	will	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will
Lightning Wand	will	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str
Ice Wand	int	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str
Fire Wand	str	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will
Combat Wand	str	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck
Cooking Knife	will	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex
Rolling Pin	dex	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str
Ladle	will	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck
Fishing Rod	will	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck
Single Rose	will	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will
Rose Bouquet	int	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str
Whistle	luck	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck
Flute	will	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str
Chalumeau	int	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex
Single Purple Rose	luck	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex
Single Blue Rose	will	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck
Purple Rose Bouquet	str	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will
Blue Rose Bouquet	str	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str
O Sign	will	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex
X Sign	luck	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str
0 Sign	dex	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will
1 Sign	str	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int
2 Sign	luck	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will
3 Sign	luck	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will	?
4 Sign	will	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will	?	?
5 Sign	str	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will		?	int
6 Sign	luck	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck
7 Sign	str	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will
8 Sign	dex	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str
9 Sign	dex	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck
10 Sign	luck	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex
Scissors-shaped Stick	will	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str
Rock-shaped Stick	str	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str
Paper-shaped Stick	dex	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will
Music Bottle 'A'	str	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex
Music Bottle 'B'	will	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will
Music Bottle 'C'	int	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck
Music Bottle 'D'	will			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str
Music Bottle 'E'			int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str
Music Bottle 'F'		int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int
Music Bottle 'G'	int	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int
Bipennis	luck	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will
Mace	will	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will
Gladius	str	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will	luck
Leather Long Bow	luck	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will	luck
Longsword for the Amazing Racer	dex	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck
Hooked Cutlass	str	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str
Ghost Sword	str	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int
Fluted Short Sword for the Amazing Racer	will	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck
Star Seeker Lightning Wand	dex	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str
Star Seeker Fire Wand	will	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will
Bouquet	luck	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will
Japanese Fan	str	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex
Healing Wand	str	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex
Item Fishing Pole W22	int	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck
Pet Instructor Glove	int	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
Pet Instructor Stick	will	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
Practice Short Sword	will			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
Dragon Blade			luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
L-Rod from Ffion		luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
L-Rod	luck	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
(테스트용)쌍검용 롱 소드	str	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
(테스트용)쌍검용 바스타드 소드	int	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
Bone Marine Sword	luck	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
	str	will	int	dex		luck	int
	will	int	dex		luck	int
	int	dex		luck	int
	dex		luck	int
		luck	int
	luck	int
	int

lul.

As advertised, there's no obvious pattern from those 98 entries. Then again, it's never been their style to have a short repeating list.

So instead I'm going to approach this from a different angle, and ask the following:

• How is the Erinn Long Term Forecast generated?

A pretty long pattern, iirc.

And that pattern is?

If I knew, I would've figured all this out by now.

Someone knows that pattern. Can anyone get it from them?

I think the full patterns used to be listed on the wiki somewhere. Then again, that could have been on one of the other sites. IIRC, the page about it said that the game's weather pattern resets to the beginning every time there's a maintenance.

That couldn't be, otherwise weather tracking scripts would need to know when server resets and reset along with it.

I assumed they check server status the same way as the automatic server status table on the wiki's front page.

Before I jump to any conclusions, how does the automatic server status table work?

Check port -> if open, server online.

So there's no way a 40 day forecast could be accurate if every maintenance changed it.

Hm.. Although gems have an item id, they play a different role entirely.

I'm already working on that.