Talk:Cylinder

Mana Evaporation

When I'm holding my cylinder is second slot and my wand in first, and take wand off or switch to cylinder, mana evaporation only partly occurs, and stops at 15 mana. When I do this with less than 15 mana, the message does not show. Any explanation for this?--Leyuu 19:53, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed this happen to me as well. What I'm thinking is that mana evaporation only occurs for your base mana. The mana that you gain from enchants seems to be immune to mana evaporation, seeing as I have 40 mana left over after I take off a wand, while having 4 Will O' the Wisp enchants (+40 mana total). Do you have enchants that give you a total of 15 mana? EnigmaticFractal 20:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like some sort of glitch with evaporation. When I'm using my Dragon Knight title, and I switch off of my wand or unequip it, I still have 10MP remaining, the same amount added by Dragon Knight. So what EnigmaticFractal said might be true, evaporation only affects base mana, not +MP enchants/titles.--Mugenai 07:26, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Discovering upgrades???

Really? How does one discover them? Doing random things until it pops up or something? Maybe that is also why some other older upgrades for some npcs are still in "???"... --Dra6o0n 08:30, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

All I know is that it has something to do with being a Royal Alchemist. --- Angevon (Talk) 19:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

"Certain amount of Royal Alchemists can invent their own upgrades for cylinder." So basically, upgrades for the cylinder is NOT till G11, and even then, we don't know if 1 royal alchemist inventing a upgrade, will unlock it for everyone (maybe but maybe not).--Dra6o0n 11:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

It is basically *discovering* upgrades, not "inventing it". When Royal Alchemist use alchemy with certain cylinder, there is a really low chance that Royal Alchemist will discover upgrades. All the upgrades are fixed so technically you dont invent them. It will unlock for everyone. For example, i used fire cylinder and then it said i discovered upgrade for it. Then if someone else go to Eabha and try to upgrade Fire Cylinder, you will see "Fallenone's Fire Cylinder Method" or something like thatFallenone

I have a question about discovering upgrades. As not many people can actually discover upgrades, this question will most likely be up in the air for the most part. So, here it goes. In order for a Royal Alchemist to discover an upgrade, are there pre-requisites that the Royal Alchemist must meet? For example, in order to discover "(Discoverer's Name's) Weight Reduction 4", will the Royal Alchemist need to use a Cylinder that's upgraded Twice/Three times already? Can they discover the upgrade with a completely clean Cylinder? I'm aware that in order to discover "(Discoverer's Name's) Weight Reduction 4", "(Discoverer's Name's) Weight Reduction 3", must be discovered first. This is just a question whether or not the Cylinder has to be upgraded to a certain upgrade before it can be discovered. --Zephyre^TALK 18:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Will it be a good idea to track which upgrade is discovered in a server? or will it be unnecessary?

wat.