I think they threw out the renewal....

I'm getting normal leveled quests now. e-e

Elaborate please?

I have hardmode quests for G11 on my other char.

Mmn, is the EXP back to normal? What cumulative/talent level is your character?

1.4K, Expert Archer my bad it's Wise Warrior.

Yay for more testing?

I'm not getting int quests as intended e-e

Secret Meeting Adv. gives 300k exp again.

Okay, now lets test if they actually tampered with the non-SM things.

So as far as we know, they only increased the difficulty cap of certain SMs, not changed the exp values for intermediate, etc?

G11 Final is solo again.

Sounds like they undid the G17S4 update... Has anyone reported this on the forums?

I think it was intentional...

If it matters...Hardmode G10 Finale, 300K EXP.

I don't think reverting G11 final party member count was a good idea...

Int was too easy and I one shotted everyone one of those head D:

Just go test if the non-SM stuff was reverted already!

Bump. DID THEY REVERT ONLY THE SMS OR JUST THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN THING?!

yep...They threw it out...entirely. I've done over 20 Finales from C3/C4...it's reverted, making my work on finding all the changes completely pointless...

Well...Doppelganger's damage reflection (as well as neammy's) is still 25% reflected....Alby starting dungeon for G13 is reverted to basic across all difficulties...more to come as I "thoroughly" explore.

False, everything was not taken out entirely. There are some changes, but it's not completely the same as it was when Chapter 3 was renewed in Generation 14.

Yesterday, I have completed Generation 10 on my alternative character. Instead of being required of having level 10 exploration, I needed level 3 exploration, just as it was required in the Generation 17 renewal. Once I reached the final of Generation 10, my mission was advanced difficulty as opposed to intermediate, but there was no part 2 of the battle, just a Life Drain on the Doppleganger and the fight has ended, Nao thanked me and the credits rolled.

I believe that most of the generations (9~16) now are based on your total level again, but I am unsure if the rewards from the renewal are still with us. Once I get past Generation 13, I'll report back.

Regardless, I'm infuriated how Nexon are lacking with their patch notes department, letting their players know what exactly changed, and how nobody in the community seems to care about it.

...you know I care about it considering I spent....*looks at log* several days and hours on end updating all of C3 and half of C4 (SOrry G16...stupid afk events). Nice to know someone keeps their own tabs on changes too. x_x yes C3 and C4 has reverted to level-based missions. Rewards from renewal have been reverted (such as SM exp from difficulty, quest rewards...so on and so forth). As far as Change for change, I do not know.

So, were the AP and stats from G13~16 undone? (Also the last update to gens was G15S2, not 14.)

I've just finished chapter 4. The AP and stats are still there, nothing was changed.

Not the Theatre Missions? They're still Int/Adv, and what about the EXP for those?

Check if they reverted G9's The Fomors' Counterattack.

Calm down Infodude, jeez, if you want to know THAT badly go find out yourself. Don't get mad and start typing in caps.

There is nothing wrong with raising awareness in attempt of clearing up misleading information.

Maybe he doesn't have access to one of the renewed Generation quests as much as another person who's mid-through them?

What do you think Wiki discussions are for anyway? They're for fixing articles together as a team, yet you're asking him to do it himself.

I don't like making other characters, too much work. What's the point when I have one omnipotent character who is/can be a master of everything?

Exactly my point, you can't expect everyone else to find out new things for you. If you really want to know go find out yourself instead of begging in capslock. I mean, you yourself said you have an omnipotent character already, why NOT make a new character?

Have another point of view...have something to do when you literally reached end-game status (i.e. perfectly enchanted gears, stats, items)...re-experience the world...

That is an incredibly boring thing to do. Did it once, not doing it again.

^

Unless its really beneficial.

Well if you have an endgame character and have nothing left to do, and don't want to make a new character, why even continue to play Mabinogi? And I'm just saying, if you REALLY want to know that badly, go find out yourself.

I hit endgame in JP (subsequently banned again...e-e maybe cause I'm an outsider...or something...I don't know) It is not fun when you start hitting 15K smashes all day against many many mobs...

I can't hit 15k Smashes... The most I can do is just 5k or so.

Smash reforges and having around 1.1K str does wonder...I'd screen it, but...dam I can't believe it was my 3rd offense (permabanned at this point D:...) not to mention buffs too.

I heard the AP and Stat rewards were removed for G3 and C3/4.

• I question the importance of this anyway since no one seems to have reported it in B&G over at NX forums, so I assume no one cares.

People who finished them before the update kept the +3/6 stats? I haven't been paying attention to mine.

Pretty sure I still have my +3 luck at the very least from g14. That's the easiest one to remember. However I still have yet to do g16 for the other +3 to all stats so I'll see if I get those. Honestly, I want them....I better get 'em too!

I got my AP from G3 not too long ago...this was last saturday.

I'm on G3 final and the quest still lists 40 ap as a reward. I'll finish it later to confirm.

But which questline gives you luck?!

G14 and 16 both give +3 Str/Dex/Int/Will/Luck.

Looks like only the Mission's EXP, Difficulty, and Party Amount was reverted. I just did Scouting Mission Int and the box with the Arat Berries is still there.

By the way, if possible, can someone completely gather the stats and skill ranks of all the RP characters like how we did with G18? Morrighan's stats aside from HP/MP/SP are unnecessary since, if I'm not mistaken, they don't have any effect on Demigod.

And quest EXP.

Maybe it got changed cuz the players complained? Do the forums say anything?