Trivia Dilemma

What exactly is the problem with comparing to the original source? I see no problem with it since it is relevant to the game. Some people really like lore and such details and would like those comparisons back. Most of the points on this page aren't specifically for the event and are just general tips that are stated many times elsewhere and are unnecessary especially when we link to the bosses on the very same page here and it has all that info there. I'm all for trimming pages, but trimming just to trim is silly. People like details and that is what they come here to find out.

Nothing is wrong with comparing the original source. But when it's practically as long as the page itself, then it's a problem. You might as well be reading the original screen play.

A trivia isn't a summary, but this was sadly the case for chapter 4 NPC trivia. The trivia basically consisted of summarizing an Act of the play. If it was something more along the lines of "Charater X's original role in the play was to..." And etc. it would be more appropriate as a trivia than describing the differences of the Mabinogi rendition of the play.

If it gives you an idea, one of the comparison trivia was that character X didn't face mobs during the original play.

If it makes him happy maybe I'll make a page comparing the Mabinogi and original Shakespeares.

Keeping it on your user page is fine. Placing it anywhere else will not be fine. All I can say is Trivia will be regulated to some degree and will be pruned/cleaned up/reword/etc. Keeping it minimal at best.

Obviously.

Why must trivia be kept minimal? If there's trivia to put in, it should go in even if it makes the main article smaller in comparison.

It gets out of hand, and eventually has speculation, which is something we're trying to avoid.

I doubt anyone will allow you to make such a page. I can already see Cute and Greave smacking you with insults. Runescape might as well write in bold letters "our rendition of Romeo and Juliet isn't the same as the original."

On the other hand, exploring Mabi lore sounds interesting. But that's not the point of this discussion.

If you ask me, as long as it's not on a main page and on a user page, it's fine. Not like User Pages need to be regulated, granted you still want to look out for things such as vulgar content and anything that is an outright "nope."

Yes it's fine on user pages of course. I like the comparisons, too, but starry eyed information isn't what the main article space is for.

No one minded when I made a user page for Vindictus, I don't see why anyone would mind Mabinogi Lore or Shakespeare.

Oh the things you do not know.

I think that would be okay as long as we have something for everyone who would want to know instead of just completely deleting everything. This started because someone didn't want a trivia section here at all. I can understand deleting x didn't fight mobs. But you're also saying here in this topic that redundant info and guides should go in this event page and at the same time saying other things like trivia don't belong at all. I also don't think discussing things only on the elitist irc or the forums and not here is a good thing. Just saying.

I don't know about redundant info, I personally didn't read this page that much. but a guide/tips seems actually appropriate for this event considering how many first timers have trouble with it. The other problem I have with asking people to look at other page for more info, is that sometimes they still can't find it either way. Peaca Abyss not affecting Peaca Daily was something my friend couldn't find on the wiki(so I ended up adding it in the Abyss pages) it's more quicker for some one to find all the info they need on one page.

And I just said, guides and tips are not trivia, they are two completely different things. Trivias are not important to the game, it's more fo fun and I have no problems with trivia as long as they're actual trivia and isnt a complete summary of things. But I don't intend on improving the trivia section, if you like the trivia section you can do it, all I'm managing is removing useless trivia or excess trivia.