Talk:Grandmaster/Grandmaster Challenges

So, this was first brought up on the Nexon Forums when the Grandmaster revamp was introduced. Apparently, someone had gotten a mission to make an item that we have no known tailoring manual for: The Valencia Long Swordsmanship School Uniform (F), which I do believe is the Long Swordsmanship School Uniform (F). I know there's a manual for the short version that exists, as well as a long version for males. The problem is that there is no manual that exists for the long version for females. Is this a typo error? I currently don't have enough mats to test if it is indeed a typo error or not.

Even considering manuals that can't be obtained, there is none for the Long Swordsmanship School Uniform.

Also the only "Valencia" items in NA are for the plate armor set.

I'm wondering if it's the Male version that it's referring to, which does exist according to the wiki. I'm sort of waiting on a GM to see if they can shed some light on this (Maybe...)

Just a heads-up Mel posted to someone in a forum! It is a weird way to type it yes. It means Long and Short Swordsmanship School Uniform (F) pattern! No problem if anyone comes across this probably let them know! Short Swordsmanship School Uniform (F) Long Swordsmanship School Uniform (F)

As well as the long verison!

Just tried it. Didn't count. Not sure if it was a new thing or not...

we need to clean this crap up. It's a nightmare to edit e-e

I got something started, but no promises on final outcome.

User:iDSd/GMQF

I have no idea how GM missions work, so ignore the arrows if they're not appropriate.

iDSd's looks better, takes up less vertical space.

However, the arrows aren't appropriate. What happens during GM missions is that Lezzaro gives you options that says "Try First Mission", "Try Second Mission", and "Try Third Mission". You can do all three simultaneously and in any order.

I don't think the colors are needed either. The black text on red background kind of makes me have to squint a bit.

Keep in mind that only a few talents are there. Once all the talents are there, it'll take up an ungodly amount of vertical space. Course hidden text boxes solve everything! Using hidden boxes means that you'd have to take out the Table of Contents (TOC). Could always use Tabs...but I don't like tabs to be honest.

I just went through and cleaned up all of the tabs and streamlined everything. It all has a uniform look and feel to what info was already there and if I find new info as I go along doing my missions, I will add it.

I'm actually already doing this on this page:

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Lt._Jessie/cleanup

Trying to make it a bit less wordy, and there are some notes that I ran into that need to be noted or else there will be confusion.

Ummm, am I missing something here? I've just got a mission that's not listed here so I was going to add it but I don't see an edit link anywhere.

Nvm... Will delete this if I can find the means to do it.

I find it easier to read a bullet list (like under the Adventurer & Archery section) than the Quest template (under Close Combat & Bard), what do you think?

yes but i think the mission quest looks nicer

I also like the bullet list better. It's pretty annoying looking at the large quest templates. Especially when they all basically say the exact same thing.

I think a bulleted list is good enough since all you really need to know is what to do to get a seal, but it looks nicer as a quest template. I'd go with the quest template due to the fact that it would just be more organized. Just space out the quest templates more...it looks a bit crowded...but that's just me.

I agree with Lexis.