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So it appears the hero talent boxes aren't showing up due to template inclusion limits. What can we do about this?

Your friendly Server Status Script admin, Xcelled19423:48, 9 May 2015
  1. Shorten/simplify pages that are being included.
  2. Raise the inclusion limit.
MRTFlippy (talk)23:52, 9 May 2015

Shortening/simplifying the page is probably the most reasonable choice, since it makes no sense to have the page be > 2 MB.

MRTFlippy (talk)23:54, 9 May 2015

Yes, but how should they be shortened? What information is going to be cut out?

Your friendly Server Status Script admin, Xcelled19400:00, 10 May 2015

If done effectively, no information needs to be cut. Just use less junk code. Look at individual subpages and see which are using up the most space. Shorten those. Etc. Cmon, you can do this, Xcelled.

MRTFlippy (talk)00:03, 10 May 2015

I could do it, yes. But I'm consulting with other editors instead of making a large unilateral change. Maybe someone wants to use this opportunity to reformat the tables? I don't know, but I value other's input.

Your friendly Server Status Script admin, Xcelled19400:19, 10 May 2015

Is it really necessary for all the talent tables to show up on that one page? Why not just split this page into multiple subpages?

Infodude575 (talk)11:51, 10 May 2015

I also think the best solution is to just make the Talent page link to separate pages for each talent. Generalized information about talents can stay on the Talent page while the massive tables can be on the individual pages. This is also something Kadalyn suggested. A benefit of this change (or at least I think it's a benefit) is that the tabbed tables are no longer required. Tabs hide information to save room, but we can use as much room as we want on the new pages without making it look as cluttered as if all the tables were shown on the current Talent page.

Blargel (talk)12:03, 10 May 2015

I'm going to agree with the above, simply because it's like the easiest and simplest route.

We don't need no fire.

Sakura502 (talk)12:05, 10 May 2015

That seems fine, but maybe we can keep all the hero talents on one page still?

Kapra - (Talk)12:43, 10 May 2015

Hero talents can stay on their own area. Milletian talents can stay on their own area. Just have this page redirect to them.

Infodude575 (talk)12:55, 10 May 2015

I'm just going to nod "yes" and pretend I understand what's going on. As far as Hero tables...ugh. that place is a mess as it is, and outdated since free creation disabled hero talents.

Main Page > Small detailed page > insert table on said small page

Lazy Bunny Mikaya ' ^ ' (talk)13:30, 10 May 2015

If anyone wanted to know the number of templates that are on this's around 90.

And that number doesn't include the templates found inside those I'd around 150~

Lazy Bunny Mikaya ' ^ ' (talk)20:40, 10 May 2015