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Previous talk articles are in the Archive ~Д TALKCONTRIBS 22:22, 28 October 2010 (PDT)

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Your Skill Boxes

When I hover my mouse on them the box pops up, then never goes away. D; I don't know if this is because of IE8 or what. Tellos 10:15, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Works fine on Firefox. --Aramet (Talk) 10:41, 3 November 2010 (PDT)
It should work fine on gecko and webkit. Everyone knows (Including M$) that IE is bad. The only thing that seems good is IE9 so far... It not going away is because it isn't receiving the "onmouseout" macro ~Д TALKCONTRIBS 13:15, 3 November 2010 (PDT)
Try this? --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 20:30, 3 November 2010 (PDT)
Well, I'm against non-standards... And IE9 seems that it will support it... So I'm not going to add it... (But it is really easy to add :D) ~Д TALKCONTRIBS 21:54, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Server Status

The game is actually undergoing an update along with a server maintenance and upgrade. Since Nexon's site is currently down, I can't put a link here to show you the exact details of what is being updated. For the sake of accuracy the edit that was made should be undone. Thanks. -- Jspillers | (Talk) 00:11, 10 November 2010 (PST)

Check and there is no patch 70. Therefore the maint is not an update ~Д TALKCONTRIBS 02:54, 10 November 2010 (PST)
Well, I didn't revert the page because I anticipated problems. Now that the site is back up, have a look. Content Update. I'm not going to argue with you, there isn't a point to it. The page specifically says "update" and contains items that Nexon is updating. There isn't a reason to be difficult about something so small and trivial. -- Jspillers | (Talk) 08:29, 10 November 2010 (PST)
Guess so. They seem to have put the update on later than usual. They usually put the update on the server ~1hour before the patch starts... ~Д TALKCONTRIBS 11:54, 10 November 2010 (PST)

Natural Shield

I hope I left this message the write way :c. Just a thing I noticed, with your table (I think you made it? o m o) for the hover-over skills. Natural Shield links to the magic skill thingy and it's on monster pages so it's kinda misleading-ish? D: It doesn't link as the heavy-stander-thing-for-arrows. I don't think you intended it for the ping-thing (haha rhymes :D) but meh :x just throwing it out there. I'm not even sure if you made the table I dunno, I have bad memory. --\(°∀°)/ 18:06, 28 November 2010 (PST)

Well, I can't fix that until someone agrees for a quick edit to the Monster Template
~Д TALKCONTRIBS 22:44, 28 November 2010 (PST)


You could go ahead and work on one and we'll replace the jQuery method. Can't respond on Angevon's post for some reason. I hate this threading crap.--κєνıи тαıĸ«) 18:57, 5 December 2010 (PST)

I'll work on it... when school ends (2 weeks to go :D). I hate this threads thing to. Can't believe that IJ just added it without asking us first...
~Д TALKCONTRIBS2010:12:06:05:24 (Monday)
You can still post messages normaly by clicking the edit button at the bottom of the page if you want to. Thats what I do except when responding to a thread. Tellos 21:30, 5 December 2010 (PST)
I know. I just don't like this threads thing since it complicates things
~Д TALKCONTRIBS2010:12:06:07:52 (Monday)

Quick Q

Have you had any troubles with the 'threaded discussions' lately? --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 16:17, 10 January 2011 (PST)

Nope, but I still don't like them ~Д TALKCONTRIBS2011:01:11:00:32 (Tuesday)

Please get in contact with me

I have some matters that I need to discuss with you. Please contact me on IRC or MSN ( This is important. --KhentaMFL 18:25, 10 January 2011 (PST)

I'll try to get in contact ASAP. Don't expect me to be there until at least a few hours later though ~Д TALKCONTRIBS2011:01:11:05:03 (Tuesday)
Just contact me when you can. I just need to talk to you. --KhentaMFL 22:56, 10 January 2011 (PST)


weapons have a template like Clothing/Food? some already have templates due to blacksmithing. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 15:09, 12 January 2011 (PST)

Yes, they should ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:15:01:57 (Saturday)

What have you done!?

Artisan and Special upgrade are two VERY different things.

Artisan is available for ALL WEAPONS SHIELDS ARMOR AND CLOTHING as the last upgrade @ 100 prof and 30k gold. It gives random player stats.

Special upgrade is upgrades past 6 for SELECT WEAPONS ONLY to enchance the weapons stats itself.

It seems the page's history is gone, so I'll need to request an admin restore it.

Tellos 17:33, 14 January 2011 (PST)

I know. That is why I moved Special Upgrade back. Blame Ikkisuki, he was the one that deleted the artisan page... ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:15:01:56 (Saturday)


What was that extension that you wanted IJ to install? I forgot that word... --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 19:52, 16 January 2011 (PST)

ReplaceText and also LoopFunctions ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:17:04:36 (Monday)
Just so you know, I've gotten IJ to install two new extensions, CSS and LoopFunctions. ReplaceText has already been installed for a while. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 11:45, 17 January 2011 (PST)
I know ReplaceText has been installed for a while, it just isn't working ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:18:01:13 (Tuesday)
It actually started working fine post-integration removal. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 17:16, 17 January 2011 (PST)
That's good then. Problem is I'm not a minion yet :P. It'll be in use once I gain that membership again ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:18:03:57 (Tuesday)

Span or Div?

Yo, master of HTML. Is it better to use span or div? Or is there no cons to either? If you're wondering, I'm using it to move around images using relative/absolute positioning. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 20:47, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Both can be used, but div is better since you do not have to specify style="display: block;". Just remember, div = block; span = inline ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:19:05:32 (Wednesday)

Quest info location

Which file is it in? Tellos 00:19, 19 January 2011 (PST)

I'm not sure, but I think it is stored in the server similar to NPC dialogue ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:19:08:20 (Wednesday)
Curses Tellos 00:37, 19 January 2011 (PST)

Blacksmith's Lost Hammer

I'm curious as to why you broke the link I had put in place with the object's image. Please explain. Urhixidur 05:02, 25 January 2011 (PST)

You shouldn't provide a name parameter when the item name is the same as the page. At least upload the file with a correct name next time ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:25:20:47 (Tuesday)
1. The name was not the same, because the script mangled the apostrophe in it.
2. That's what the Name is parameter is for.
3. How does this justify deleting the image again?
4. If you insist on "correct" naming, you could re-upload it yourself, instead of depriving the readers of the image. Your behaviour borders on vandalism. Urhixidur 15:27, 25 January 2011 (PST)
The script renames the image as "Blacksmith&-39;s_Lost_Hammer.png". Fix it.
Thanks to you, we now have two duplicate images that need deletion: Blacksmiths_Lost_Hammer.png and Lost Blacksmith Hammer.png. Please find an admin to clean this up. Urhixidur 15:33, 25 January 2011 (PST)
I would move the images to the correct names if I had that privilage. I am waiting for that privilage as of now, but admins can still move images ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:26:09:10 (Wednesday)

New Weapon Box Update

New Weapon Box is now official. Can you help me add in the new paramters to existing pages? Tellos 18:40, 30 January 2011 (PST)

Mind telling me the new parameters? :P ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:01:31:07:50 (Monday)
He updated the documentation page. New parameters are on the bottom. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 15:39, 31 January 2011 (PST)

Re: Proficiency

When I went through and did grammar work I started from Ikkisuki's last revision. By the time I had finished, there had been a couple changes to the table in the meantime, which I attempted to compensate for. Sorry about the weirdness. Domirade [Tarlach] 08:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Template:Calculate/Damage and Template:Calculate/Critical

What are they supposed to do? --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 02:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Check Francisca's Upgrades for a live example of them in use. Also Dragon Fang and Battle Sword ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:03:11:06:25 (Friday)
I did, but I still have no idea what they're supposed to do other than print text. Too lazy to decipher template. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 06:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
They print out a number that can be futher used in #expr functions. They basically calculate how much damage or crit you get from str/dex or luck/will, respectivley. This makes things easier when damage formulas and the like are changed so things don't get outdated for Artisan upgrade calculations ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:03:11:07:03 (Friday)
Butbutbut... how does player stats affect a weapon's stats? --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 07:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

HTML5 setting

Just curious, did the HTML5 setting I made to the config file have the desired effect? I never heard back. --Irjustman 22:18, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Not really. The DOCTYPE still states that the page is XHTML 1.0 Strict and even with that, the page isn't 100% valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. Oh well, we can't really do anything else at the moment because it's an upstream problem... ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:04:05:05:39 (Tuesday)

Div Tags

Can you explain to me the point of the div and br tags on the Homestead page? --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 07:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

It's so the "sort" button is underneath the text, not next to the last line of it. ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:05:13:07:11 (Friday)
I think a line break does a better job at that. On a 21" widescreen, They show up as normal. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 03:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Shock pages

Hm? Why the revert? The current table is messy, I cleaned it up a bit. o.o; Qaccy 07:42, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm assuming many pages dont drop from elite. --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 08:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
And...why assume that? I see no reason why they wouldn't. But with that mentality? Why even have the Elite section on the table at all? :/ Also, Daols aren't even sorted into the table properly for page 10, FYI. But if it's just gonna be reverted, I'm not even touching the thing. >_>; 15:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I assume that because he reverted your edit? --κєνıи тαıĸ«) 17:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I reverted because you lowered the precision of the percentages. Keep the precision and you can do your edits :) ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:05:28:22:57 (Saturday)
You at least could have only reverted the percentages if a decimal's really that important to you. :/ (really?) Instead of that heavy-handed move, which reverts the entire table back to the sloppy mess it currently is. Take a look at how Daols are listed as dropping page 10, for example. Apparently fixing that is less important to you than making sure the drop chances are "precise" (again, really?). How can you be positive that any of those drop rates are even accurate? Simply because it's a decimal? Qaccy 04:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I know it's precise since a Japanese magazine that had information from Nexon listed the drop rates ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:05:31:06:24 (Tuesday)
KR Wiki suggests and states on their elite mission drops list that it is exactly the same as hardmode with some added bonuses. There is nothing in hardmode that isn't in elite.--Aubog007 08:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Unknown Skill Icons

This Icon --> File:UnkIcon3.png <-- is what appears above your head when you right-click use the Morrighan's Feather you get in Generation 12. It is required to defeat Nuadha.

No, its the icon that appears when you hotkey the feather. I forgot to remove that from my unknown icons list :P ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:06:11:01:37 (Saturday)
New icon, by the way. Run Away.png Pyro - (Talk) 02:25, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Added :) ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:08:18:08:40 (Thursday)
We now know that this action is a Bandit trying to escape with five stars in commerce. -- Pyro - (Talk) - 05:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Run Away.png I looked at skillinfo.xml, the action is supposedly called "Run Away". It's used by the Bandits after they get 5 stars. Infodude575 07:32, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

G13-G16 Source

Look at the entire thread as well.

Eh. Why is this not a thread. Just a simple wall. I want to do that for my discussion page. --Aubog007 07:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


You visit your homestead daily? I only get 20 chicks after that one patch.

Yea. I get 40 chicks nevertheless ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:06:19:08:12 (Sunday)


If I were to copy/paste the entire mouseover-box js codes and rename them all, would it work to create two different types of mouseover-boxes? I ask this because if one uses a template that uses mouseover-box and another template that has mouseover-box with edited CSS, the edited css would take effect on both templates.

Nevermind, I found a workaround.

Adding automated status to the wiki page...

SO, I finally went back to my automatic server status script. I optimized it, and painstakingly recreated the current "look", so that it will look and behave exactly the same as the manual table now, down to the font and spacings.

Anyway, I've decided the script is as good as it'll get. It works great, and looks great too. I took care of updating the "Edit server status page" already. I hosted the script on my own site ( and it is fully functional.

The only thing that remains is to replace the current table with this one. IJ isn't responding to me, so you and Kevin (I'll link him to this page) are probably the only ones who can help me with this. All we need to do is somehow get the contents of onto the wiki page. An iFrame would do nicely, except it isn't valid HTMl 4.01 strict. AJAX would probably be the better solution, but I'm not sure how easy it would be to implement.

Another downside to an iframe is it will add scroll bars if they hit "show".

I guess let's do an iframe for now, and we can replace it with AJAX after we perfect it.

So, somehow, we need to replace the current table with <iframe src="" width="360px" height="195px" frameborder="0"> </iframe>

I haven't the faintest idea of how to do that. Do you guys?

Xcelled194 03:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

So far, Kevin doesn't seem to be agreeing to this AJAX thing :( ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:08:29:08:04 (Monday)
Well, can we just put an iframe in there now and worry about AJAX/something else later? Xcelled194 01:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
I just want to say that Nexon changed the IPs of the servers. I'll update the script to the new IPs.
OK, the script has the new IPs and works again. Xcelled194 00:42, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Make a bot that edits the wiki page when the status are different? Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot --Hengsheng120·TALKCONTRIBS 23:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
That would work, but it would be very inefficient, not to mention error prone. Plus, you'd have the bot competing with the hoards and other editors, which is what we're trying to avoid. Also, you'd have the bot putting a constant drain on the wiki, which could potentially slow it down. In addition, I don't believe IJ has enabled bots on here. No, a bot is not the answer. Besides, we already have the script written and working. It'd be more work to re do it to interface with the bot. Xcelled194 00:42, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Your Signature

Your signature is long coding-wise and takes up that much room every time it's used on a talk page. I suggest you make a page like User:Kotarou3/Signature and write this in:

<span style="border: 1px solid #f00; padding: 5px; white-space: nowrap;">[[User:Kotarou3|<span style="color: #36b;">~小太郎</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Kotarou3|<span style="color: #488; font-size: 7.5pt;">TALK</span>]]</sup>{{#if: {{{1|}}}||style="display: none;"|<sub style="margin-left:-26px;">[[Special:Contributions/Kotarou3|<span style="color: #e73; font-size: 7.5pt;">CONTRIBS</span>]]</sub> {{{1|}}}}}</span>

That way every time you write a signature you can just type {{User:Katarou3/Signature|~~~~~}} and it will take up less wiki space. -- Pyro - (Talk) - 05:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... Template:Kotarou3/Sig ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2011:10:11:05:19 (Tuesday)
You just made it into a template... I said to make it into a user subpage. Pretty sure making a template for personal use isn't allowed. -- Pyro - (Talk) - 20:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I made the template ages before you wrote your first message to me about this >.> ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2012:04:16:11:56 (Monday)
Just saying, it's probably not a good idea to have it on a template page. -- Pyro - (Talk) - 12:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Ego Link.

Oh, okay then, my bad. I guess the wording and the ad and it not connecting when I tried it the second time kinda confused me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AKAAkira (talkcontribs) . Please always sign your comments with the Signature.png button or by typing ~~~~!

It's okay :). I'm still trying to work out why it doesn't work for some people, but works for others. ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2012:02:18:01:19 (Saturday)
On a side note, what do you mean exactly by "doesn't work"? Getting redirected to the Ad? Blank page? And what browser are you using? ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2012:02:18:01:21 (Saturday)
I was using Internet Explorer 9 that time. When I said didn't work, it showed an "Internet Explorer cannot connect" kind of message, with a refresh button and a globe picture. That was the second time, though, the first time I got to the ad, only I just didn't see the button for skipping it. -Akira 01:29, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Have you tried again recently? ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2012:02:21:05:15 (Tuesday)
Yeah I have, right after you reverted my mistake. Worked that time. -Akira 05:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
That's good then :) ~小太郎 TALKCONTRIBS 2012:02:21:10:26 (Tuesday)