Template talk:StyleMonster

There is now an archive for this talk page. --- Angevon (Talk) 23:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

PNG instead of GIF

Can we replace the File:StyleMonster Icon.gif with File:BlackSpiderFomorScroll.png ? PNG performs better. Urhixidur 14:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Also change the spelling of "Melee" to "Mêlée". Urhixidur 11:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Melee is an actual English word, so it's not getting changed. PNG is getting looked into and will be swapped if I'm not feeling lazy or too tired on a sunday night. -- ladywinter ~{talk | contribs}~ 22:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Mêlée is also an English word. Look it up. Urhixidur 12:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Ladywinter, you didn't notice that you already copied+pasted the png from my beta template? ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 06:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

"Melee" is easier on the eyes. --- Angevon (Talk) 17:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, you're not able to type "Mêlée" with a QWERTY keyboard, which most people in North America are going to be using. --Jay 22:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Skills

The current Skills code leaves a dangling comma in just about all cases. There is no easy or elegant way to code around this, so maybe we could replace the dangling commas with leading bullets? Something like:

| colspan="6" style="height: 34px;" | {{{Skills|}}}<!--
-->{{#ifeq: {{{SkillNone|n}}}|y|[[File:Unknown.PNG|link=]]}}<!--
-->{{#ifeq: {{{SkillSmash|n}}}|y|· [[Smash]]}}<!--
-->{{#ifeq: {{{SkillCounter|n}}}|y|· [[Counterattack]]}}<!--
[...]
-->{{#switch: {{{SkillNaturalShield|n}}}
|1=· [[Natural Shield]] lvl 1
|2=· [[Natural Shield]] lvl 2
|3=· [[Natural Shield]] lvl 3}}

Note that I would also delete the closing else pipes of the ifs, as they're useless. Urhixidur 12:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

If I had my way, there would be icons instead. But Ladywinter won't use it T.T (Template:Kotarou3/StyleMonster) ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 23:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

consensus wins on that issue. read the archives for question 104. -- ladywinter ~{talk | contribs}~ 00:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

The commas are pretty ugly, so something should be done. --- Angevon (Talk) 23:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way to put in BOTH the text and icon? Like text on top and icon on bottom separated by boxes? That way we can show the ranks of the skill in the icon on hover.--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 00:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

...not without it being a colossal spacehog. ^^;; -- ladywinter ~{talk | contribs}~ 00:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You can make the text Like This--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 01:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I could always do a "MouseOver" effect... but the wiki doesn't support me adding in javascript :< ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 20:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Style?

You know what I just realized. This template was made first as a "stylish" template. Now that it's back to plain, it doesn't really earn the "Style" part in it's name anymore, does it? (Cough, imo, I liked the old version better.) --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 07:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

The "Style" is the "Templatey" type of style. That kind of style that styles/formats things. Get it? ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 07:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Still sucks! D:<! </hate> --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 07:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

You're free to design a "stylish" one, but this one is much more functional than the previous version. --- Angevon (Talk) 19:15, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I hated the blue version and so did lots of ppl in game? =\ -- ladywinter ~{talk | contribs}~ 20:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

The "blue template" was a colossal, repulsive waste of page space.--Sozen Cratos Focker 15:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Images Not Showing Up

For some reason if I upload an image by clicking 'No image available, click here to upload', it won't show up or link to the page. --kaede-kit 18:23, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

It's becuase the template needs to be refreshed. A quick fix would be to edit that section and click save without any edits at all. ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 04:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Ladywinter disappeared...

She said she would be replacing this template with my one... Check the discussion for proof. But Ladywinter disappeared :o ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 12:21, 2 November 2010 (PDT)

But wait! The template will look ugly unless you fix MediaWiki:Common.css. My fix is on the discussion page ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 12:26, 2 November 2010 (PDT)

Why did you get rid of the scollbar overflow for item drops? I thought it was agreed that we don't want the drops under hidden text anymore. --- Angevon (Talk) 15:41, 2 November 2010 (PDT)

• looks at main template*... *Looks at mine*... I don't see whats wrong o3o (Ah crap, lost my monobook skin...) ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 21:00, 2 November 2010 (PDT)

Oh sorry, I wasn't looking at the examples. But it looks like your skills are set up to show vertically? I'm not sure about that. Otherwise it's great and I'm ready to implement it. Maybe get more opinions on the skills? --- Angevon (Talk) 07:36, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Nope. It was because you forgot to add a closing brace to an edit I requested on Common.css. It should be fine now ~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 13:18, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Awesome. --- Angevon (Talk) 15:58, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Going off of the WhatLinksHere pages in the "(Main)" namespace (so it excludes user pages/sandbox subpages and talk pages), it seems this template is basically unused, with the exception of an archived Q&A page and a little blurb about the Arc Lich in the Dailies Guide. I'm assuming it's been more or less replaced by the semantic templates. Could we include some sort of "don't use this anymore" header at the top -- I don't know if there is a banner that's all meta and wiki-specific rather than game-specific -- and would it make sense to remove it from the Style Templates category as well?

Yeah I think it sounds reasonable to remove the category for now, but there's no way to properly mark it as deprecated at the moment. I'll think about this a bit.

For the Arch Lich in Dailies Guide (and any others like it), that should be converted to use the new system via #show, but I suspect many of these are links to the template rather than uses of them, so those can just be ignored.

Can an administrator add this to the list of skills:

-->{{#ifeq: {{{SkillBoltOutoftheBlue|n}}}|y|{{SkillIcon|Bolt Out of the Blue|{{{SkillBoltOutoftheBlueRank|}}}}}}}<!--

I think Chaincasting and a few others is needed as well. I don't quite remember.

Chain Casting is in there. We have an icon set up for White Dragon's Breath, so that should be added too.

As the title suggests, since all pages of Roar have been gathered into 1 page, it would be better to change the template to reflect that.

There's two types of Roar though. But why hasn't this been added yet?

Can you replace:

{{{Skills|}}}<!--

with

{{#if:{{{Skills|}}}|{{{Skills}}}[[Category:NeedMonster Skills]]}}<!--

While going through the skill for what was left for Template:StyleShadowMonster, the following monster skills don't have a skill icon.

Need icons for

• Shadow Death
• Light of Sword
• Axe Throwing
• Rain of Thunder
• Grim Reaper Attacks
  • Grim Reaper Vertical Attack
  • Grim Reaper Horizontal Attack
  • Grim Reaper Windmill
• Bran Attacks
  • Bran's Shockwave
  • Bran's Arm Swing
  • Bran's Charge
• Claimh Solas Attacks
  • Claimh Solas Dash
  • Dark Flame
  • Claimh Solas Rushing

added one for rain of thunder

Can an admin add the following line in the skill section for monsters with this skill:

-->{{#ifeq: {{{SkillAssaultSlash|n}}}|y|{{SkillIcon|Assault Slash|{{{SkillAssaultSlashRank|}}}}}}}<!--

Done.

It is incorrectly labeled in this template. Although only monsters in missions use this template, I think it should be changed. Who knows? Maybe one day a non-mission enemy may have Flame Burst.

This still needs to be changed....

The previous format caused the icon to link to a player skill, rather than the passive defense. With Angevon's permission, I've modified it so that the same image is in another location, and directs you to the correct page. --Sephy 19:08, 30 November 2010 (PST)

The overflow height seems a bit high, especially for pages like these that don't have very large images. Also, the [Link] part seems a bit redundant, since the TOC can create a link once clicked upon...

Okay. Time to update my beta, and you can copy+paste it in

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~◕Д◕ ^TALK_CONTRIBS 01:24, 25 November 2010 (PST)

I think the link is to make it easier to link a friend on messenger to the particular monster you're looking at. So you won't have to scroll up and click the TOC to make the link. But I don't know how common or important that is. No big deal to me if it's removed.