Talk:Collection Journal

I believe this page needs tables for the individual sections. For example, the Taming Animals journal could have a table with the icon, journal name, and animals that can be tamed for that acheviment. Cooking could have the icon, food name, and where the food could be purchased (or the recipe?). Fishing could have the icon, fish name, and locations where it is fished. Thoughts? I am willing to do the tables myself.

Taming should also have the monster description. Cooking and Fishing descriptions aren't as important since they are the same as the item's description, but I agree.

I realize that a huge table like the one I would need to make would probably be very lengthy, so perhaps we could even devide the Collection Journals into seperate pages, and just keep this page with the main info for all of them on it.

Actually, how about making it all one page, but putting hide/show button on each of the three journal tables and making hide default?

Even so, they would still be huge. Like the spirit feeding pages before they were cleaned up.

I'm just waiting for the go-ahead of a higher-up before I do it.

In my opinion, separate pages and no hidden text.

We could do it like spirit feeding pages, since Hershey mentioned it and the idea popped in my mind.

I'm not all too sure how to do it like the spirit pages, and since I don't want to screw everything up.. I'll start on the charts like Angevon said.

I could've done the charts... Why're we starting creation before a consensus has been reached? e-e

Sorry. I have the Fishing one pretty much done its here. The Taming one is halfway done, and yes I'm aware of all the broken links. It's here.

I think it would be much easier to right a short list of each monsters that do apply rather than saying "includes this, does not include this."

I had started out doing like..

Raccoon Young Raccoon Young Gray Raccon

Then I realized how huge that would be. So I figured I would try and specify a group of monsters that the entry applied too, and people can see their individual monster pages for more information. I'll put a note at the top of the chart before the page is finished.

But your way, people will still ask "Does this count? What about this?" Honestly, it's worth the extra effort. May I have permission to work on this?

The table will have 103 entries when finished. If you attempted to list every single monster for each entry, that would be a gigantic mess. I believe breaking it down into monster 'families' (ie: the way they're already divided onto monster pages) is the best way to keep things small and still understandable. I can put a note if theres something to specific to clarify about a monster, and I'm sure more will be added to the table later.

You did not address what I just said... I told you, there should be some open-close, hide-show part of the box. Room should not be an issue...

Could you give me a small example of what you're talking about? On your user page or something.

Actually, I just came up with something better.

Animal	What Applies	Description	Notes
Animal Name	Animal 1 Animal 3 Animal 2 Animal 4	Description go here.	Notes go here.

Bolded words indicates names. We merge the name and icon slots. The Name should be the general name and should lead to the page on that type of enemy. Then we add a new slot labeled "What Applies" or "Applies Too". Here we list each of the animals and list them on the right and left side, side by side. In that example specifically it may appear to be given too much room, but a majority of the monster's have long names. Description remains unchanged excluding width. And the notes section should be used for other things such as "Mimics must be woken before they can be tamed."

Widths:
Animal: 50
What Applies: 225
Description: 200
Notes: 150

If you have any productive criticism or suggestions, please let me know.

I do like that actually. It was hard for me to picture what you ment before. By 'listing each of the animals' do you mean specifically like..

• Young Brown Fox
• Brown Fox
• Young Red Fox
• Red Fox
• Etc Etc

Or just..

• Fox

After working on the page for an hour and having it almost intirely refortmated.. My browser decided to crash. I'm extremely frustrated now.

You can work on the page if you'd like Pyro, help is appreciated. Also, I'm not intirely certain how to divide the 'Applies Too' section into left and right, so I could use help with that.

Since it's nearly 6 in the morning here, I think I'll go to bed now, haha.

Okay, I know how frustrating those kind of things can be. I meant specific monsters for the Applies Too, and linked too. As for how to move it left and right, just look at the coding after I update it. For monsters that need testing, I'll put (?) next to the name.

I tamed a Brown Ixion, but I did not get a new achievement for it. Can somebody who doesn't have most or all of their journal completed see if it counts towards anything? Perhaps a horse? If not, we should state this on the page.

I have most of my journal complete, however yes, the Ixion does count as a horse, you can tell because when you go to look at your horse entry appearance, it shows the Ixion.

Ah, that explains it. And it only shows that if Ixion is the horse with the most stars you've tamed.

If it's not shown as the horse with the most stars for you, might I ask what the 5-star was? Because I've been searching for awhile.

I don't know, sorry. =X

5 Star Ghost, Cow, Grumbill and Horse come from SMs.

Unfortunately they come up as 1* currently and has not been fixed yet.

To the best of my knowledge, Players on KR don't even care about the taming cane, Hence no effort has been made to fix it yet?

That's kind of lame :\

But remember, SM/TM difficulty doesn't affect stars. An elite Orange Grumbil is still worth less stars than a basic Pink Grumbil.

Same stars actually, all 3 grumbills are 1-starred

Oh, well that's just lame. (And they come out all misshapen in the preview in the Collection Journal.) Anyways, you got the point. =P

Yup. My entire journal is basically done with just those 4 exceptions.

The field boss Gnu's in Iria count as 5* Cows, I think I had tamed a giant short horned Gnu to get mine

Thought you can't tame those since they count as field bosses.

I thought that at first too, However, when I summoned one with a monster urn, I tried and it worked. Maybe it's just the ones from the urn that work? If I see a field boss spawn, I could try it

That would be a wonderful test, also slightly rage inducing if it's true...

I have tested and confirmed. The field boss Giant Short Horned Gnus in Iria are NOT tamable, However, the ones that were spawned from monster urns ARE, and they do count as a 5* tame

Has anyone on the wiki acquired the max stats for any of the 'weapons' from these quests?

Format: Fish Name / 1 Star Size / 2 Star Size / 3 Star Size / 4 Star Size / 5 Star Size (in CM)

• ??? means range range in between the previous level and next level may fall in here

Brifne Carp / 10 / 104 - 131 / 134 - 144 / 149 - 150
Golden Scale Fish / 30 - 115 / 121 - 143 / 145 - 154 / 155 - 157 / 159 - 160
Rainbow Trout / 56 - 143 / 160 - 179 / 187 - 191 / 198 / 200
Abb Neagh Carp / 44 - 75 / 77 - 89 / 92 - 98 / 98 / 100
Catfish / 60 - 61 - 79 / 85 - 93 / 95 / ??? / 100
Blowfish / 20 - 42 / 49 - 55 / 56 / ??? / 60
Black Sea Bream / 20 - 50 / 54 - 62.99 / 64 - 67 / 68 - 69 / 70
Red Sea Bream / 20 - 60 / 76 - 91 / 93 - 97 / 98 / 100
Mako Shark / 100 - 227 / 240 - 265 / 280 / ??? / 300
Silk Striped Marlin / 164 / 256 - 278 / 280 / ??? / 300
Anglerfish / 30 - 41 / 43 - 47 / 48 / 49/ 50
Flying Fish / 10 - 21 / 23 - 27 / 28 - 29 / ??? / 30
Jellyfish / 50 - 61 / 63 - 67 / 68 / 69 / 70
King Crab / 90 - 101 / 103 - 107 / 108 / 109 / 110
Marine Pearl / 5 - 9 / 12 / ??? / ??? / 20
Striped Marlin / 30 - 115 / 121 - 144 / 145 - 152 / 155 - 157 / 159 - 160
Sun Fish / 79 - 212 / 224 - 269/ ??? / ??? / 300
Ray / 166 / 177 - 179.99 / 182 / ??? / 200
Sturgeon / 171 - 203 / 218 - 260 / ??? / ??? / 300
Lamprey / 30 - 48 / 53 - 56 / 57 - 58 / 59 / 60

Credit to Soluna of Ruairi of Mabidata

Unfortunatly, the taming journal is more complicated that it lets on. Once you have tamed one of each of the 103 type, it changes, showing a star rating for each monster a 1 star being the weakest version, and 5 star being the strongest. and from the tests that I have done so far, any shadow mission creatures you tame count for the lowest version of them. The difficulty of the mission does not appear to make any difference in it. I need to re-test monsters with titles again, but I am pretty sure they do not make a difference either

The title, the conqueror of the wild is obtained from collecting 90 5 star monster tame entries.

Apparently, there is a description of the Fish/Food/Monster. Should we input that?

The food and fish are the exact description from the actual items. I don't know what to do about the monster part, though.

We could just quote it on the monster's page, but I'm not the expert here.

Would Control of Darkness also count or is it just Taming Wild Animals?